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GENERAL SHOOTS DOWN MEMOS (CBS's Pathetic Response)
The New York Post ^ | 09/18/2004 | Deborah Orin

Posted on 09/17/2004 11:42:41 PM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

In a new blow to CBS anchor Dan Rather's credibility, the man who has supposedly exerted pressure to "sugarcoat" President Bush's National Guard record has spoken out — and says the story is dead wrong. "I never pressured anybody about George Bush because I had no reason to," retired Brigadier Gen. Walter Staudt, who headed Bush's unit in the Texas Air National Guard, told ABC News.

The dubious documents that Rather used in a "60 Minutes" report last week that accused Bush of shirking his National Guard duty include a supposed Aug. 18, 1973, memo that claims Staudt was "pushing to sugar coat" Bush's ratings.

More than a dozen document experts — including two hired by CBS — say the memos are computer-generated fakes. Skeptics also note anomalies like the use of Army rather than Air Force terms and the fact that Staudt had retired 18 months before.

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CBS spokeswoman Sandy Genelius brushed off Staudt's statements: "In a debate this heated, one can hardly expect Gen. Staudt to endorse the point of view that he exerted undue influence."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; cbs; cbsnews; crime; fraud; genelius; killian; memogate; nationalguard; rather; seebs; staudt; tang
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To: Howlin
"I love the guy," Staudt said of Bush. "I'm so tired of this negative crap about him that I'd like to volunteer to build a barn and take you press guys out behind it and kick your asses."

Horsewhippings are probably more suitable for the leprous crew at CBS News.

21 posted on 09/18/2004 12:07:16 AM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Post Toasties

Give them the "Abu Ghairab" treatment and release the photos.


22 posted on 09/18/2004 12:08:20 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: woofie

I haven't seen them........but here is something funny:

On eBay:

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23 posted on 09/18/2004 12:08:55 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: flashbunny

I'm amazed by CBS poor excuses as well. They've become snake oil salesmen.


24 posted on 09/18/2004 12:13:17 AM PDT by Tempest (Don't blame me, I'm voting for Bush.)
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To: Howlin
Howlin, that quote needs repeating:

"I love the guy," Staudt said of Bush. "I'm so tired of this negative crap about him that I'd like to volunteer to build a barn and take you press guys out behind it and kick your asses."

I saw that in an earlier thread today, and I'll repeat what I said then; I think General Staudt needs to hook up with Zell Miller, I bet Zell would help him build the barn, ** and ** kick the asses!

25 posted on 09/18/2004 12:15:37 AM PDT by GaltMeister (I'm just a Pajamahadeen cog in the wheels of the VRWC.)
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To: flashbunny
But when a little old lady who said bush was "selected, not elected" claims they reflect a dead man's sentiments, then, well, that's news!!!

Ah it's worse than that !

The old biddy contradicted herself. She said in Rather's interview that Staudt did not exert any influence.

So we have:

1 Staudt denying it.

2 Knox denying it.

3 A forged document that is dated 18 months after Staudt retired.

...And CBS still claim the content is accurate...

Someone go put padlocks and chains on the doors of that place. They are a national DISGRACE.

26 posted on 09/18/2004 12:16:00 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: JPJones
"In a debate this heated, one can hardly expect Gen. Staudt to endorse the point of view that he exerted undue influence."

She's basically calling Staudt a liar.

Sooner or later, this is going to make him mad enough to take to the airways.

27 posted on 09/18/2004 12:19:12 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Wil H
But ... but ... but ... WIL ... Dan Blather wants to call the President out to answer all these serious charges, nevermind all the BS and all that you said, it dosen't matter. Why won't GW take the bait and ANSWER THESE SERIOUS CHARGES??? LOL

The Monty Python boy's couldn't dream up stuff like this .....

28 posted on 09/18/2004 12:20:33 AM PDT by GaltMeister (I'm just a Pajamahadeen cog in the wheels of the VRWC.)
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To: FesterUSMC

"but they will take the word of a 86 year old woman who plainly states that she does not like President Bush... amazing..."

Even more amazing is the fact that at no time in the story do they even mention that she's a self described Bush hater.


29 posted on 09/18/2004 12:22:35 AM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (The UN did such a great job with the Oil for Food program, let's let them run the whole country!)
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To: billclintonwillrotinhell

Very good indeed and I like your tag line.


30 posted on 09/18/2004 12:22:57 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
On top of which CBS News parades this secretary's blatant anti GWB bias and impugns the word of a General as to his own actions.

CBS News truly exists in some bizarre alternate Left Wing Universe.

31 posted on 09/18/2004 12:31:17 AM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Howlin

That's what I'm hoping, that the assault on his character,for that's what this is no matter how many euphemisms they use,will make him mad enough to speak out and show them once and for all for the partisan liars that they are. I would think that questioning his integrity like this after he's stated that he didn't exert undue influence,would make a lot of military people mad on his behalf.


32 posted on 09/18/2004 12:52:06 AM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Post Toasties
I say good, let them keep up with this charade as long as they wish. The American people have voted with their remotes as to who they believe. CBS, Mapes and Rather are in the tank.

They have themselves in one big 'ole hole and can't quit digging. If they persist they will tie it back to the DNC via Burkett and Cleland, I reckon.
33 posted on 09/18/2004 12:55:43 AM PDT by Pebcak (?)
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To: Pebcak

I wonder if there is any possibility of another network broadcasting Staudt rebutting CBS's lies about him.


34 posted on 09/18/2004 1:08:42 AM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Pebcak

Bush got into the guard because he was college educated and would be an officer. There was a long list for enlisted, but not for those qualifed to train as pilots.


35 posted on 09/18/2004 1:10:46 AM PDT by occutegirl
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

The debate is so one-sided against CBS that the heat is on CBS and no one else.


36 posted on 09/18/2004 1:14:30 AM PDT by The Bandit
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To: FesterUSMC

"but they will take the word of a 86 year old woman who plainly states that she does not like President Bush... amazing..."

When one considers the average age of the old media dino managers over at Black Rock, they probably thought she was a young hottie chick and tried to hit on her.


37 posted on 09/18/2004 1:21:05 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
CBS spokeswoman Sandy Genelius brushed off Staudt's statements: "In a debate this heated, one can hardly expect Gen. Staudt to endorse the point of view that he exerted undue influence."

That is sort of true. One usually does not expect people accused of crimes to rush out to take credit for them. Still, CBS is accusing Staudt of a crime--shouldn't they give him a fair chance to respond? The fact that he has been accused by CBS now means CBS can treat him like a criminal? I don't think so.

38 posted on 09/18/2004 1:22:21 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Wil H

You wrote:

"Someone go put padlocks and chains on the doors of that place. They are a national DISGRACE."

Why doesn't the White House just revoke CBS
press credentials to the White House & Capitol
for the duration of the campaign?

Let them copy the CNN reporters' notes & get scooped daily.
That'll teach 'em!


39 posted on 09/18/2004 1:26:46 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
I knew that would be their response. They're like Chatty Cathy dolls.



"Pull the string!"
40 posted on 09/18/2004 1:27:09 AM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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