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Lithuania to close Chechen separatists' website (Kavkaz is dead!)
Interfax ^ | Sep 17 2004 | Interfax

Posted on 09/17/2004 5:59:33 PM PDT by MarMema

VILNIUS. Sept 17 (Interfax) -

The Lithuanian Defense Council decided at its Friday session that the Kavkaz-Center website which belongs to Chechen separatists and is operated from Lithuania will be closed in the near future.

"This website has been inciting ethnic and religious hatred. That is why a decision was made at the Lithuanian Defense Council's session to recommend that its operations be stopped in the near future," Lithuanian Prime Minister Algirdas Brazauskas told journalists after the session, which was chaired by the country's President Valdas Adamkus.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: berezovsky; beslan; chechenscum; chechnya; lithuania; russia; zakayev
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I have been trying all day to get kavkaz.org up. I usually read this site several times weekly.

It seems like it has been taken down.

1 posted on 09/17/2004 5:59:33 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Destro; struwwelpeter; BrooklynGOP

ping


2 posted on 09/17/2004 6:00:20 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: JohnathanRGalt

ping


3 posted on 09/17/2004 6:02:59 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

That's amazing - Pre-Baltic hates Russians and usually does everything they can to piss off the bear.


4 posted on 09/17/2004 6:06:40 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter

Lithuania has a strong connection, however, through Patriarch Alexy and the Orthodox church. My guess, anyway. Alexy was just there not too long ago.


5 posted on 09/17/2004 6:11:01 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: struwwelpeter

Note the use of the words "religious hatred", also.


6 posted on 09/17/2004 6:11:42 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

You know more about this stuff than 98% of all FReepers,When You Post I Read!


7 posted on 09/17/2004 6:13:47 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life.......... I)
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To: struwwelpeter
struwwelpeter wrote:

Yes, but only a complete FOOL would come between a bear and her whelps.

The website in question might be considered by The Bear as an accessory to the wanton butchery of hundreds of her children.

And she's getting ready to take revenge.

8 posted on 09/17/2004 6:14:13 PM PDT by Westbrook
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To: Westbrook

In which case it's a smart move on Lithuania's part. I mean, it's a smart move in any case, but let's call this a strategically smart move.


9 posted on 09/17/2004 6:16:43 PM PDT by wimpycat (John Kerry has a fevah, and the only prescription is "MORE COWBELL".)
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To: cmsgop; struwwelpeter; kosta50; Honorary Serb; FormerLib; katnip
From just this last September, 2004. For instance. Because I have been noticing a lot more attacks on the Orthodox church on Kavkaz in the last 4-5 months, actually.

Case in point

Looks like they said one too many bad things about us.

They'll be back though, from somewhere else, who joins them in hating us.

10 posted on 09/17/2004 6:18:56 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: struwwelpeter
That's amazing - Pre-Baltic hates Russians and usually does everything they can to piss off the bear.

True but they like being out from under the Russian boot and would like to keep it that way.

11 posted on 09/17/2004 6:21:01 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (CBS, admit defeat and bow to the pajamahadeen)
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I like how they use fake Russian names to sign their BS, ie, from your link - Andrei Novikov, Valery Lebedev
12 posted on 09/17/2004 6:25:52 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: struwwelpeter
Ok I was wrong. Alexy was just in Estonia, not Lithuania. (He is Estonian by birth).

However, this Link shows some of the strength of the connection, I think.

13 posted on 09/17/2004 6:28:27 PM PDT by MarMema
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I like how they use fake Russian names to sign their BS

I know. They do work at it. Evil little creatures.

14 posted on 09/17/2004 6:29:46 PM PDT by MarMema
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Is "Abu Muskhab" (Kamal Burakhlya) on your watch list?

According to Lenty.ru he is an Algierian mercenary close to Basayev, and just picked up in the North Caucasus. They refer to him as "Basayev's Demolisher".

Want a translation?

15 posted on 09/17/2004 6:38:21 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter

Of course! Please and thank you.


16 posted on 09/17/2004 6:45:48 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: struwwelpeter
Doesn't even ring a bell at all, btw. Never heard of him. So much for my chechen study prowess. LOL.

But is he truly an Algerian?

17 posted on 09/17/2004 6:47:43 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Libertina

Look, some progress!


18 posted on 09/17/2004 6:50:06 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: StoneFury

Also you might want to see this.....sniff, sniff.


19 posted on 09/17/2004 6:53:55 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema; cmsgop; struwwelpeter; Honorary Serb; FormerLib; katnip
One should ask why the Russian Orthodox Church is calling its parishioners 'slaves'? Why not 'sons of God', like in Catholicism or in Protestantism?

This kind of propaganda is very useful because it appeals at -- what else -- the ignorant and the stupid, and we all know there is no shortage of those!

Old Greek term for "servant" became the new Greek word for "slave." In Church Slavonic, the word "rab" (servant) likewise became the modern word for "slave." This is not a coincidence. Greeks believed that anyone who works for soemone else is not free. The concept of "employed" did not exist. You either worked for yourself and were free or you worked for someone else and were not free.

In the context of the times, being a servant and being a slave was one and the same.

Modern Russian/Serbian word for "servant" is sluga, not "rab". It denotes hired help, not owenership. The language of the Orthodox Church in Russia (and in other Slavic coutnries) is the original 9th century Church Slavonic. Thus, at Sacraments, the priest says "this servant of God" (rab Bozhii) is ... " where the word rab is used in the 9th century context and not the modern meaning.

Propagandists of the Kavkaz and similar source know that the majority of people who speak English will not know that. But such propaganda sources are easily discredited. Their "arguments" are transparent and invalid.

We all serve God's purpose and do His will -- if we choose. God is not our Father if we reject Him. That's why Jesus told the Pharisees that their father is the devil. But the Kavkaz people play on the fact that people not only don't know Church Slavonic but also don't read the Bibile. To me that means Satan is behind Kavkaz doing his dirty work.

20 posted on 09/17/2004 6:54:47 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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