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Interesting take. :)

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 09/17/2004 4:59:34 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 09/17/2004 5:00:23 PM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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And there is plenty. According to Kelley, a journalist once asked George W what he had just been talking about with his father. "Pussy," he replied.

Actually, that was probably more of an accusation than a response.

3 posted on 09/17/2004 5:04:31 PM PDT by Physicist
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One, Tom Wilner, railed against the injustice: "George had absolutely no intellectual curiosity about anything. He wasn't interested in ideas or books or causes. He didn't travel. He didn't read the newspapers. He didn't watch the news; he didn't even go to the movies… how anyone ever got out of Yale without developing some interest in the world besides booze and sports stuns me.''

Sounds like the kind of thing Falstaff might have said about Henry V.

By the way, I've been waiting expectantly to see the world change its course in consequence of the great intellectual prowess of Tom Wilner. Certainly any decade now ....

4 posted on 09/17/2004 5:06:15 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: MadIvan
how anyone ever got out of Yale without developing some interest in the world besides booze and sports stuns me.

Ahhh....just jealous that he missed his chance to have fun as a young guy.

5 posted on 09/17/2004 5:07:38 PM PDT by Rokurota
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To: MadIvan

The "pussy" story is an old Bill Clinton, Vernon Jordan story about them playing golf. You'd think a fiction writer could come up with something more original.


8 posted on 09/17/2004 5:13:26 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Fake but accurate.)
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To: MadIvan

Even Bob Shiffer has said that Bush is always reading books. Whenever someone recycles THAT one i know it's bunk.


9 posted on 09/17/2004 5:14:10 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: MadIvan
MEOW ALERT
10 posted on 09/17/2004 5:17:10 PM PDT by tioga
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To: MadIvan
On the other hand, only total dedication could have produced George W. Barbara Bush is described as a single-minded soccer mum. When her son did not make the teams, but was put in charge of cheering, it was Barbara who turned up and yelled her head off on the touchline, to the patronising disdain of the other mothers.

I love my mom, but I think I'd have enjoyed having Bar in my family too. No matter how much slime people like Scatty Kelley toss at the Bushes, what keeps coming out is what a strong, committed family they are. The RATS can never turn that into a bad thing.
13 posted on 09/17/2004 5:26:44 PM PDT by Buttaboom (I didn't play Dungeons and Dragons all those years and not learn a little something about courage.)
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The argument used against Kitty Kelley is that she is a chick-historian, dealing in private lives rather than public policy.

This trollop must be fresh off the hovercraft from some remote island where she used to write for the Hickory Farms catalog. This is far from the argument. The argument is that she tells unsubstantiated lies.
16 posted on 09/17/2004 5:28:58 PM PDT by Jaysun (The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action)
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George W said to her: "Now you've come back as yourself

That's m' Dubya!

If true, that's a gem...getting in a retroactive dig by dissing a woman's masculinity!

29 posted on 09/17/2004 6:17:29 PM PDT by Monti Cello
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I think that Cherie, bless her heart, is jealous of Tony, of his comfort with himself, and the great unwashed masses.She wants the spotlight,the Kudos, the reciprocal love of the nation for her largess. Her competency as earth mother and tycoon. Hogwash! She is a shrew! He should beat her.

Barbara is and always was one of the boys. Feminine but just one of the guys. A genuine caring mother, a military wife, a loyal wife. She fit her life. It surrounded her like a tailored suit. It fit. She has a quick wit a sharp retort, never mean spirited, but sharp! I admire Barbara. She is who she is.
laura is cut of the same cloth, but in Laura there is a stylish, sophisticated, well read socialite, easy on the eye and the nerves. Loving her family, adoring her husband, reveling in her life. She is top drawer and a real woman of substance.
I do not think George is Quite so simplistic. I Think he has a sharp wit, has a quick understanding of the situations surrounding him and has an empathetic understanding of people. I do not think he is stuffy or a goody two shoes. I can imagine some belly laugh bawdy funning'. He is a 24K man. I think he is a sweet loving man who is not afraid of the consequences of taking a cowboy stance on many fronts. He will defend his family. WE are his family. His belief in God is his strength as it was meant to be. I would not want G.W. to be my enemy he is a much more formidable friend. Like his mother, he is who he is.
The Bush family is strong, cohesive and inspiring. I would, if I were one of them, be very proud and feel extraordinarily fortunate. It is a family of strong solid folk. The sons are awsome. I think the grandchildren may be a wonderful addition. Time will tell. A place were belonging is pretty near perfect.

Kerry is pathetic. His wife is NOW on rampage. She manages to always look like an unmade bed. He looks like a male runway model who can't get away from a mirror. The Kerry girls are going to be savaged and I am sure they do not have it coming.

Compare the Clinton family to the Bush and weep. They are a national embarrassment. Genuine vs shallow. characatures of themselves.
33 posted on 09/17/2004 6:43:26 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts (Keep your eye on the donut, not on the hole.)
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To: MadIvan

This is an excellent take.

And, I have to say...reading about Barbara Bush, (and what Kitty Kelley sees as being her negatives) is heart-warming.

Barbara sounds JUST like my Mam - in the way she had a no-nonsense approach to her depression; stood in the shadows while her family shined; was a true matriarch behind it all, with family at the core.

I'd almost borrow (I said borrow, not BUY) a copy of the Kelley book just to read Kelley's venom in writing about a great woman.


36 posted on 09/17/2004 7:16:18 PM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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One, Tom Wilner, railed against the injustice: "George had absolutely no intellectual curiosity about anything. He wasn't interested in ideas or books or causes. He didn't travel. He didn't read the newspapers. He didn't watch the news; he didn't even go to the movies… how anyone ever got out of Yale without developing some interest in the world besides booze and sports stuns me.''

Yet we're supposed to take seriously what these jealous classmates say about him, including that he was using coke at Yale in a time where the drug was practially unknown in this country?

57 posted on 09/18/2004 12:43:36 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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"Kitty Kelley has sold me on Bush"

OK we got a shudder alert here.

Disturbing mental pictures will keep me up at night for weeks now...

61 posted on 09/18/2004 8:48:47 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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