MSNBC's Hardball Just Had Dean's Former Campaign Manager Float New "Theory"

Hank All-American | Sep 17, 2004 | Hank All-American

[Hank All-American]

Dean's former campaign Manager just mentioned a "theory" he heard that the documents were actually made in 1972, but were later scanned, changing the font.

Can you believe how desperate the liberals are? Did it also change the terminology from Air Force to Army? Did it also change the signature? Did it also change the retirement date for General Staudt?

They will never concede the documents are forgeries. This will live on in liberal mythology forever. Like the October Surprise.

[Hank Rearden]

That's Trippi's theory????

Trippy, man.

[Diddley]

[119] Very good analysis.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Thank you, sir.

[LittleRedRooster]

Is he talking about some OCR scan of the documents? Here's my question . . . WHY? Again it's the same thing with these morons. They think that because soemone COULD do a thing that that means that possibility can't be closed off. It doesn't matter how ridiculous or how easily it can be demonstrated just how remote or implausible these things are they'll cling to it. It's PATHETIC, is it not?

I could be wrong but I think OJ played golf today.

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[DocRock]

So, why don't they simply produce a document with a 1970's era typewriter and scan with OCR to show us how this theory works in reality. This should be simple enough.

Oh, because it's impossible!

[VadeRetro]

Oh, we can make fun, but Dan's going to forge ahead in pursuit of the real story.

[OregonRancher]

Where's Steven King when you need him? Another best seller coming to you soon.............

[IC Ken]

They truely belive the American public is THAT STUPID!!

[TC Rider]

It's feasible that the originals were scanned into a OCR (Optical Character Recognition) package which would scan individual characters and substitute modern fonts.

The only reason for doing so, would be to EDIT the document, changing it's content.

Once the content was changed, they are FALSE! Let's see the originals, if they even exist.

[Final Authority]

I heard this theory too but it was several days earlier by a caller on a talk radio program. The talk show host was not too knowledgeable because there is a simple question to ask when one scans a document and applies OCR (optical character recognition) and that is, why? For the purposes of electronic filing one would scan a document as a picture image or a fax. One would only apply OCR if one intended to modify, manipulate, edit, or otherwise, change the document. No one uses OCR for archiving such documents. So, when you and others hear about OCR just ask, why? Then tell them, all OCR proves is that the documents were indeed corrupted by the process, period.

[DocRock]

"It's feasible that the originals were scanned into a OCR (Optical Character Recognition) package which would scan individual characters and substitute modern fonts."

If anyone has ever used OCR, then I'm sure they also had the occasional change of characters, also. I'm not talking about fonts, but actually changing letters such as "ln" to "h" or "in" to "m" or "cl" to "d". This was common, (at least when I used mine), and I don't see any substituted character indicating an OCR scan. Of course the new theory will be that they corrected them. *yawn* Where's my PJs?

[Heart of Georgia]

the documents were actually made in 1972, but were later scanned, changing the font.

They must be true believers that we're all dumb as rocks.

[TC Rider]

If anyone has ever used OCR, then I'm sure they also had the occasional change of characters, also. I'm not talking about fonts, but actually changing letters such as "ln" to "h" or "in" to "m" or "cl" to "d". This was common, (at least when I used mine), and I don't see any substituted character indicating an OCR scan. Of course the new theory will be that they corrected them. *yawn* Where's my PJs?

I have used OCR through the years and hate it for the same reasons.

Regardless, if they scanned the originals into OCR to change/edit them that still makes them FRAUDS!

Where is the chain of ownership, where are the originals!

For all we know, Burkett found Killian's hand written to-do list for April and decided to flesh it out.

1. Bush needs physical
2. Bush wants transfer to Alabama
3. Call Staudt about golf on Saturday
4. Sugar coat doughnuts for breakfast tomorrow

[eno_]

crumple marks on the PDF

Now this one is interesting:

Has anyone compared all the sets of PDFs to check for crumple marks?

This could tell us a few things, like:

Were the sending, and recieving, fax machines high-end grey-scale machines (or, the recieving machine could have been a fax server).

If the sending OR receiving machines WERE NOT high end grey-scale machines, someone at CBS may have crumpled the documents to "age" them - in which case, CBS is MASSIVELY fAx0rd.

Or, it may be the docs were scanned and emailed, instead of faxed, to CBS, or to an intermediary. That might explain the need to go to Kinkos - they could do they scan, which would almost certainly be a color scan, which would leave the crumple marks in.

Have any bloggers mined this vein yet?