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September showdown in the Bronx : Red Sox vs. Yankees (Live Thread)
NY Daily News ^ | September 17, 2004 | Mike Lupica

Posted on 09/17/2004 8:27:59 AM PDT by presidio9

This is the kind of September we are supposed to have with the Yankees and the Red Sox. This is the way it is supposed to be, a series like this at the Stadium this weekend, then another one next weekend at Fenway Park. It wasn't supposed to be as easy as the Red Sox made it look in April. It wasn't supposed to be the kind of knockout punch the Yankees threw at Boston at the end of June, that three-game series when Derek Jeter, in addition to everything else, seemed to have taught himself how to fly.

It wasn't supposed to be the Yankees ahead by 10-1/2 games in August, as giddy as that made everybody around here feel, when the Red Sox were declared dead, and gone, again.

This, tonight at the Stadium, is the way it is supposed to be:

El Duque Hernandez with the ball in the top of the first tonight, trying to kick his leg to the upper deck and duck his head behind his shoulder and throw one of those breaking balls that starts out by Ruppert Place past Johnny Damon of the Red Sox.

Maybe last year isn't as good as the Yankees vs. the Red Sox could ever be. Because after everything that has happened between Game 7 last October and now, the sides are still even.

"A showdown in the Bronx," is the way Damon described this series the other night.

It is all of that.

It is not the kind of all-in, knockout baseball it used to be in the old days, the way it was in September of 1978, when it was the Yankees trying to come from way back in the pack. Barring a total collapse by the Red Sox - and it is hard to see them collapsing after the kind of good, clean hardball they have played lately - you can almost book both teams making the playoffs.

So no matter which of these two teams wins the American League East, it looks as if we will be right where we were a year ago after the regular season, hoping to get both of them through the first round, and into another series with a trip to the World Series on the line. Where it will be all-in, knockout baseball. Where everything could come down to one swing of the bat, the way it did with Aaron Boone, on the night when he finally ended the greatest Yankee-Red Sox season of them all.

But you have to know this: The Yankees don't want to blow the biggest regular-season lead they have ever blown. The Yankees do not want the Red Sox to come back from 10-1/2 behind on the 15th of August to win the AL East, whether they know they've got the safety net of the wild card or not. Because in their minds, they would be carried into October on a stretcher.

For now, we get these six games, starting with the ball in El Duque's hand tonight. Where would the Yankees be without him? Second place, is where. The big fat lead would be gone already. Alex Rodriguez was supposed to be the difference between the Yankees and the Red Sox this season. We've got him, Yankee fans crowed. They don't. That was the first time the season was declared over, back in February, when it was announced that the Yankees had made a deal with the Rangers for A-Rod.

Only he has not been the difference. Somehow, even as he has hung up fairly gaudy numbers, even with the richest contract in the history of sports, A-Rod has just been one of the stars on the Yankees this season. Just not the biggest. The Yankees are still ahead because Gary Sheffield has been the kind of batting star A-Rod was supposed to be. And because El Duque, with all his spin and mystery intact at whatever age he really is, remains one of the great big-game Yankee pitchers of them all.

Now he gets the biggest game he has had in a while, at least until he gets to the playoffs.

"[The Red Sox] are still trying to catch us," Derek Jeter said.

Only for about 900 years.

But for now, the two teams are as close as they could be. In the last two seasons, counting the 2003 postseason, the Yankees and Red Sox have played 39 games. Thirty-nine. The Red Sox have won 20 and the Yankees have won 19. All those games, and really only one swing from Boone separating them.

The Red Sox don't go away. They made their run and now the Yankees have won eight of their last 10. There is a great wild-card race in the National League East. But this is something different. This is the Yankees against the Red Sox. The season started with all those games between them in April. Now here we are again, 11 months, exactly, from Aaron Boone.

Curt Schilling is with the Red Sox now, Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte are gone from the Yankees. Nomar Garciaparra is gone from the Red Sox. The Red Sox tried to cut Manny Ramirez of Washington Heights to get A-Rod and now Ramirez might be MVP. The Yankees got A-Rod. We get the September we wanted. It is the September we always want. Somehow, the sides are still even.


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To: F16Fighter

What a bunch of BS. Play baseball!!! It's barely raining. The MFY's are stalling......


181 posted on 09/17/2004 5:01:42 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: Libertarian444
"What a bunch of BS. Play baseball!!! It's barely raining."

Where do YOU live? In the Amazon??

182 posted on 09/17/2004 5:03:18 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Maybe we can bring back El Duque on Sunday?

No way, the guy's over 40 and he just threw 58 pitches.

183 posted on 09/17/2004 5:03:28 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch." --Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: Libertarian444

The radar does not look all that ominous. A couple of hours from now though, it'll be a mess.


184 posted on 09/17/2004 5:03:34 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: presidio9

My tag line says it all. Go-my beloved Yankees!


185 posted on 09/17/2004 5:04:17 PM PDT by Lucky2 ( 2004 is the year the Yankees will win the World Series and GWB will be re-elected!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
BIG break for the Yanks. Hernandez was well on his way to 100 pitches after 4.

Schilling and Pedro vs. Mussina and somebody else, but it can't be El Duque.

Thanks to that useless bum Loaisa, we're VERY thin.

186 posted on 09/17/2004 5:06:43 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: JohnnyZ
Damn Steinbrenner probably has blimps dumping water on the stadium.

Red Sox fans blame Steinbrenner for everything the way Democrats blame Karl Rove for everything!

187 posted on 09/17/2004 5:07:08 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: JohnnyZ
Yeah -- wishful thinking..

El Duque's done for the series.

188 posted on 09/17/2004 5:07:38 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Mr. Mojo
FYI:

Not bad...yet.

189 posted on 09/17/2004 5:09:15 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: NYCVirago
Red Sox fans blame Steinbrenner for everything the way Democrats blame Karl Rove for everything!

It's not really Steinbrenner we're paranoid about, more his alliance with Satan.

190 posted on 09/17/2004 5:10:38 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch." --Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Great photo. I'll bookmark that site.

If the game doesn't resume in the next hour or so it'll be too late.

191 posted on 09/17/2004 5:11:28 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: F16Fighter
Thanks to that useless bum Loaisa, we're VERY thin.

If you still had Roger and Boomer you'd be a lot of things but certainly not THIN. :)

192 posted on 09/17/2004 5:11:53 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch." --Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: F16Fighter

Mussina will go on Sunday for sure. .....And yeah, if it's a double-header, the kid Halsey will probably start the other game.


193 posted on 09/17/2004 5:12:48 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: presidio9
Lupica......go suck eggs!

These are the Red Sox memories I'll take to my grave!

194 posted on 09/17/2004 5:13:28 PM PDT by JimVT (I was born a Democrat..but then I grew up)
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To: JohnnyZ

Roger wanted out, so there's nothing that could've been done. But the Yanks never should've gotten rid of Boomer.


195 posted on 09/17/2004 5:14:05 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: JimVT

"Where's my man Eddie Yost." - Kerry


196 posted on 09/17/2004 5:14:49 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
I grabbed a screen shot. The site is here:

http://www.intellicast.com

197 posted on 09/17/2004 5:14:55 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: presidio9

So is there ANY chance of this game not getting called?

:-(


198 posted on 09/17/2004 5:15:01 PM PDT by baseballfanjm
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To: presidio9
You keep missing the point,

And you keep missing the spelling

199 posted on 09/17/2004 5:15:48 PM PDT by JimVT (I was born a Democrat..but then I grew up)
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To: baseballfanjm

They're back out on the field now!


200 posted on 09/17/2004 5:15:56 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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