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September showdown in the Bronx : Red Sox vs. Yankees (Live Thread)
NY Daily News ^ | September 17, 2004 | Mike Lupica

Posted on 09/17/2004 8:27:59 AM PDT by presidio9

This is the kind of September we are supposed to have with the Yankees and the Red Sox. This is the way it is supposed to be, a series like this at the Stadium this weekend, then another one next weekend at Fenway Park. It wasn't supposed to be as easy as the Red Sox made it look in April. It wasn't supposed to be the kind of knockout punch the Yankees threw at Boston at the end of June, that three-game series when Derek Jeter, in addition to everything else, seemed to have taught himself how to fly.

It wasn't supposed to be the Yankees ahead by 10-1/2 games in August, as giddy as that made everybody around here feel, when the Red Sox were declared dead, and gone, again.

This, tonight at the Stadium, is the way it is supposed to be:

El Duque Hernandez with the ball in the top of the first tonight, trying to kick his leg to the upper deck and duck his head behind his shoulder and throw one of those breaking balls that starts out by Ruppert Place past Johnny Damon of the Red Sox.

Maybe last year isn't as good as the Yankees vs. the Red Sox could ever be. Because after everything that has happened between Game 7 last October and now, the sides are still even.

"A showdown in the Bronx," is the way Damon described this series the other night.

It is all of that.

It is not the kind of all-in, knockout baseball it used to be in the old days, the way it was in September of 1978, when it was the Yankees trying to come from way back in the pack. Barring a total collapse by the Red Sox - and it is hard to see them collapsing after the kind of good, clean hardball they have played lately - you can almost book both teams making the playoffs.

So no matter which of these two teams wins the American League East, it looks as if we will be right where we were a year ago after the regular season, hoping to get both of them through the first round, and into another series with a trip to the World Series on the line. Where it will be all-in, knockout baseball. Where everything could come down to one swing of the bat, the way it did with Aaron Boone, on the night when he finally ended the greatest Yankee-Red Sox season of them all.

But you have to know this: The Yankees don't want to blow the biggest regular-season lead they have ever blown. The Yankees do not want the Red Sox to come back from 10-1/2 behind on the 15th of August to win the AL East, whether they know they've got the safety net of the wild card or not. Because in their minds, they would be carried into October on a stretcher.

For now, we get these six games, starting with the ball in El Duque's hand tonight. Where would the Yankees be without him? Second place, is where. The big fat lead would be gone already. Alex Rodriguez was supposed to be the difference between the Yankees and the Red Sox this season. We've got him, Yankee fans crowed. They don't. That was the first time the season was declared over, back in February, when it was announced that the Yankees had made a deal with the Rangers for A-Rod.

Only he has not been the difference. Somehow, even as he has hung up fairly gaudy numbers, even with the richest contract in the history of sports, A-Rod has just been one of the stars on the Yankees this season. Just not the biggest. The Yankees are still ahead because Gary Sheffield has been the kind of batting star A-Rod was supposed to be. And because El Duque, with all his spin and mystery intact at whatever age he really is, remains one of the great big-game Yankee pitchers of them all.

Now he gets the biggest game he has had in a while, at least until he gets to the playoffs.

"[The Red Sox] are still trying to catch us," Derek Jeter said.

Only for about 900 years.

But for now, the two teams are as close as they could be. In the last two seasons, counting the 2003 postseason, the Yankees and Red Sox have played 39 games. Thirty-nine. The Red Sox have won 20 and the Yankees have won 19. All those games, and really only one swing from Boone separating them.

The Red Sox don't go away. They made their run and now the Yankees have won eight of their last 10. There is a great wild-card race in the National League East. But this is something different. This is the Yankees against the Red Sox. The season started with all those games between them in April. Now here we are again, 11 months, exactly, from Aaron Boone.

Curt Schilling is with the Red Sox now, Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte are gone from the Yankees. Nomar Garciaparra is gone from the Red Sox. The Red Sox tried to cut Manny Ramirez of Washington Heights to get A-Rod and now Ramirez might be MVP. The Yankees got A-Rod. We get the September we wanted. It is the September we always want. Somehow, the sides are still even.


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To: GraniteStateConservative

Go Astros!


141 posted on 09/17/2004 3:45:25 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Molly Pitcher

Want to do a baseball thread tonight with us???


142 posted on 09/17/2004 3:47:02 PM PDT by Dog ( i)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Conservative Red Sox fan (not an oxymoron!) Bump.


143 posted on 09/17/2004 3:51:20 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Dog

Maybe! Who're we rooting for???


144 posted on 09/17/2004 4:01:18 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher (...standing beside her gun and her President!)
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To: TheBigB
Sens. Clinton and Schumer
vs.
Sens. Kerry and Kennedy

Excuse me, I suddenly need to evacuate.

145 posted on 09/17/2004 4:02:43 PM PDT by theDentist ("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
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To: Molly Pitcher

Red Sox....cowboy up!!


146 posted on 09/17/2004 4:03:57 PM PDT by Dog ( i)
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To: F16Fighter
1918.

Damn near a century. LOL

147 posted on 09/17/2004 4:10:17 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Rather Lied, MSM Died! Long live FreeRepublic and the Blogs!)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping to the Yankee thread.:-}


148 posted on 09/17/2004 4:11:06 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Rather Lied, MSM Died! Long live FreeRepublic and the Blogs!)
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To: F16Fighter

Looks like I have to find a new internet weather forecast -- Yahoo weather says it's pouring rain in the Bronx right now.


149 posted on 09/17/2004 4:11:55 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: jwalsh07
Looks like another wild Oct. is in the works.
150 posted on 09/17/2004 4:14:56 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: All

It's only the first inning, and things are getting hot! It looked foul to me.


151 posted on 09/17/2004 4:15:04 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: jwalsh07

Blind 3rd base ump. .....but at least they got the call right. And we were spared Manny giving his teammates kisses after the HR trot.


152 posted on 09/17/2004 4:16:40 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

We can only hope. I love it when my sons in law start pulling out their hair by the handfuls. It evens things out. A lot of bald guys in New England every October. Amazing.


153 posted on 09/17/2004 4:17:26 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Rather Lied, MSM Died! Long live FreeRepublic and the Blogs!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
And we were spared Manny giving his teammates kisses after the HR trot.

Bud Selig needs to ban the Man-hugs.

154 posted on 09/17/2004 4:19:35 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago

I think it's just Manny, Pedro, and Ortiz who do the lip-locking.


155 posted on 09/17/2004 4:22:03 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
I think it's just Manny, Pedro, and Ortiz who do the lip-locking.

And their fans call A-Rod and Jeter gay! ;)

El Duque's something else, isn't he? Bases loaded, one out, and he gets out of the jam! Now that's a pitcher.

156 posted on 09/17/2004 4:23:43 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago

El Duque just worked out of a nasty jam. .....looking good. He gets stronger as the game progresses.


157 posted on 09/17/2004 4:23:51 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Does Bronson Arroyo have braids? Sheesh, between Pedro, Manny, Damon, and this clown, the Red Sox have the worst hairdos in baseball.


158 posted on 09/17/2004 4:26:27 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago

Yeah, my pops just said the same thing the other day. The Sox are the grimiest looking team since. ......the 1970's.


159 posted on 09/17/2004 4:28:12 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Jack Nicholson and Lorne Michaels are sitting together in the pricey seats at the game.


160 posted on 09/17/2004 4:33:37 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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