Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Kerry seeks to sway veterans in LV speech
Las Vegas Sun.com ^ | September 16, 2004 | By Kirsten Searer

Posted on 09/16/2004 7:27:54 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn

Today: September 16, 2004 at 11:04:13 PDT

Kerry seeks to sway veterans in LV speech By Kirsten Searer LAS VEGAS SUN

With polls showing veterans overwhelmingly supporting President Bush, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry today is expected to make a strong pitch for the veteran vote.

Kerry, a former Navy officer, has been increasing his criticism of Bush's handling of the war in Iraq over the last few days and will speak in Las Vegas today to the National Guard Association. He is expected to outline his foreign policy goals and plans for veterans benefits.

He'll speak to a crowd that gave Bush, a former National Guard officer, a warm reception at the Las Vegas Convention Center Tuesday, especially when the president made strong promises to defend the country against terrorism.

Nationally, veterans favor Bush by as many as 20 percentage points in recent polls. But on Wednesday the Kerry campaign brought a group of veterans, headed by several generals, to Las Vegas to argue that Kerry's Vietnam experience makes him the better candidate.

"Let's get somebody else in there that has been one of the boots on the ground, who has been under fire," said Las Vegas resident Michael Selvage, an Air Force veteran.

Retired Lt. General Edward Baca said he has spoken to all 14 of the veterans who served on swift boats with Kerry in Vietnam, and all pledged support for the candidate.

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; kerry; lasvegas; speech; veterans; veteransvote
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last
I didn't see the Las Vegas Sun on the bad list, but, I excerpted it just-in-case.

Note: Kerry had to bring Veteran-supporters to the speech with him. That must have been the applause we heard.

1 posted on 09/16/2004 7:27:54 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Arizona Carolyn

He also had Weasley just to his left.


2 posted on 09/16/2004 7:29:04 PM PDT by CMailBag
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arizona Carolyn
Ollie said many got up and walked out as Komrade Kerry took the podium. Gotta love it!
3 posted on 09/16/2004 7:31:56 PM PDT by Use It Or Lose It (Dan Rather is headed to the IBM Selectric Chair.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arizona Carolyn

Does a transcript of the speech exist anywhere yet?

It supposedly contains a phrase that needs wide publicity.

It also appears that if Kerry had competent campaign
advice (and they had some real influence) this speech
would have been cancelled on some excuse.

Kerry got the same reception that Kennedy would have got
had he gone thru with today's aborted plan to have Teddy
speak in Nanticoke, hometown of Mary Jo Kopechne.


4 posted on 09/16/2004 7:32:44 PM PDT by Boundless
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arizona Carolyn
Note: Kerry had to bring Veteran-supporters to the speech with him. That must have been the applause we heard.

Yeah, all 3 of them.......

5 posted on 09/16/2004 7:33:53 PM PDT by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Boundless

C-SPAN.org will most likely air it again. I watched it earlier... it was pathetic.


6 posted on 09/16/2004 7:34:12 PM PDT by oolatec
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Arizona Carolyn

When Kerry addressed the VFW-he also brought in ringers to stand and clap in the audience.

I posted this earlier.

A few Saturdays ago, VP Cheney and Mrs Cheney were guests at the Ranger Ball, in Columbus, Ga.
The visit had very little advance publicity and was closed to the press.
My brother was there and the troops loved Cheney.
Loved him.
Many of those present had served tours in Iraq, including my brother.
Their wives and girlfriends, who had endured the hardships of the long separations-stood and cheered as loudly as the Rangers.

"A crowd of 1,100 Rangers and their guests cheered and gave Vice President Dick Cheney a standing ovation Saturday at the Columbus Convention & Trade Center."

"During a 45-minute visit, Cheney thanked the Rangers for their service and remembered the fallen Rangers from Bravo Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment. Cheney was accompanied by his wife, Lynne."

"For me it meant a great deal," Capt. Jay Bartholomees said of the vice president's visit.
"But to have the vice president thank the Rangers leaves a greater impact and inspiration for the future service in support of the global war on terrorism."

The troops understand more clearly than anybody else, that George Bush has their back and that John Kerry will stab them in the back.



7 posted on 09/16/2004 7:34:33 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( When the going gets tough-John Kerry gets going-far away)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Wild Irish Rogue
The troops understand more clearly than anybody else, that George Bush has their back and that John Kerry will stab them in the back

...and that, my friends, is the bottom line...

8 posted on 09/16/2004 7:38:08 PM PDT by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: dirtbiker

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/040917/ids_photos_wl/r3737625026.jpg&e=10&ncid=1617

God Bless George W. Bush and God Bless the United States


9 posted on 09/16/2004 7:40:18 PM PDT by connor_in
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Arizona Carolyn
Kerry seeks to sway veterans in LV speech

The only swaying going on were some older veterans nodding off.

10 posted on 09/16/2004 7:44:33 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (3 Purple Hearts? No blood? No Way!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arizona Carolyn

This sounds like the same anti-war John Kerry of the 1970's to me:

John Kerry speech to the Nation Guard today: "He did not tell you that with each passing week, our enemies are getting bolder – that Pentagon officials report that entire regions of Iraq are now in the hands of terrorists and extremists. He did not tell you that with each passing month, stability and security seem farther and farther away."


11 posted on 09/16/2004 7:50:48 PM PDT by notkerry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Use It Or Lose It
Kerry wants this

Antarctica Service Medal and another Purple Heart for the bad case of Frost Bite that he got from those in attendance

12 posted on 09/16/2004 8:04:59 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Boundless
It supposedly contains a phrase that needs wide publicity.<<< I just got done watching it on C-span and I couldn't believe one man could have the gall to make the speech he did!...There were MANY phrases that need publicity!!!
13 posted on 09/16/2004 8:08:14 PM PDT by M-cubed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Arizona Carolyn

Its on C-Span now kerry will follow. Bush is getting a good welcome, kerry wont!!


14 posted on 09/16/2004 8:10:44 PM PDT by Coroner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: oolatec

Bush is on now


15 posted on 09/16/2004 8:12:29 PM PDT by Coroner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Boundless

its on cspan now


16 posted on 09/16/2004 8:12:52 PM PDT by Coroner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: oolatec

GWB on CSpan - repeat of Guard speech. RIGHT NOW


17 posted on 09/16/2004 8:14:05 PM PDT by baseballmom (You Know Where I Stand - GW Bush - 9/2/04 We're standing with you, Mr. President)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Wild Irish Rogue

Kerry was trying to buy our votes. The 55 Y/O retirement and the Tricare proposals are extremely expensive.

These coupled with his health care plan would be impossible to pay for.


18 posted on 09/16/2004 8:34:38 PM PDT by CPT Clay (57 in '04)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Boundless

11:41 pm
0:33
Speech
Kerry Campaign Speech
National Guard Assn. of the U.S.
John F. Kerry , D-MA


19 posted on 09/16/2004 8:45:11 PM PDT by outlaw5209 (Viva Bush!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Arizona Carolyn


alt

Navy Contradicts Kerry on Release of Military Records
By Marc Morano
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
September 16, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - The U.S. Navy released documents Wednesday contradicting claims by Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry that all of his available military records have been released.

The Navy, responding to a Freedom of Information Act request from the legal watchdog group Judicial Watch, also referred interested parties to Kerry's campaign web site for government military documents.

Navy Personnel Command FOIA Officer Dave German wrote in an e-mail to Judicial Watch that the Navy "withheld thirty-one pages of documents from the responsive military personnel service records as we were not provided a release authorization."

A "release authorization" would have to come from Kerry filling out and signing a Standard Form 180, something he has yet to do. A Standard Form 180 would authorize the complete release of all his military records. Judicial Watch filed Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests in August to obtain Kerry's military records.

The official U.S. Navy response was received by Judicial Watch on Wednesday, the same day that Kerry told syndicated radio and MSNBC TV host Don Imus that "We've posted my military records that they sent to me, or were posted on my website. You can go to my website, and all my -- you know, the documents are there."

When Imus pressed Kerry as to whether all of his documents were in fact included on the campaign website, Kerry responded, "To the best of my knowledge. I think some of the medical stuff may still be out there. We're trying to get it.

"We released everything that they (the Navy) initially sent me," he added.

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said the Navy's correspondence confirms that Kerry has not been forthright in releasing his military files.

"It's written confirmation from the U.S. Navy that there are additional documents from Kerry's service record that have yet to be made publicly available," Fitton told CNSNews.com.

Fitton called the Kerry campaign's contention that all of the candidate's military files have been released, "wrong."

"They (the Kerry campaign) are either ignorant or misleading us. The simple solution is to authorize the release of all records related to his service," Fitton said.

German in a letter dated September 15, also referred Judicial Watch to Kerry's campaign website for more information on Kerry's military records.

"Numerous responsive U.S. Navy service record documents, as well as service record documents not subject to disclosure requirements under the FOIA, may be accessed at" the Kerry campaign's website applying to his military records, wrote German.

"Right now we are in the 'Alice in Wonderland' situation, where the U.S. Navy is telling us to go to a campaign Internet site to get government FOIA documents," Fitton said.

"I am not aware of any other instance where [a government agency] told us to go to a political website for documents," he added. "It's not a reliable repository of government documents."

In additional correspondence with Judicial Watch dated Sept. 15, the Navy stated that it did not have a copy of Kerry's Discharge Certificate (DD Form 256N), adding that the Navy did not keep files of the certificate in its records.

German wrote in a letter dated Sept. 15, "A copy of an honorable discharge certificate (DD256N) is not placed in the U.S. Navy Service record when issued."

Jerome Corsi, co-author of the best-selling book "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry," told CNSNews.com the he was "surprised" the Navy did not have a copy of Kerry's discharge file.

"That means [Kerry's] got it," Corsi said. "It goes against his contention that he has released everything that is in his possession, because certainly that form is in his possession."

Corsi believes that the Navy's official response proves that "it's Kerry who is blocking the release of the [military] documents and nobody else."

"What's Senator Kerry got to hide?" Corsi asked. "By not releasing these files, he is creating the impression that there is something there he doesn't want anybody to see. What is it?"

Judicial Watch is also awaiting the U.S. Navy's response to its inquiry regarding Kerry's "Silver Star with combat V." The citation appears in Kerry's DD214 military form on his website, but according to military officials, no such medal exists.

"Kerry's record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a 'combat V' to anyone for a Silver Star," said a Naval official to reporter Thomas Lipscomb in an article for the August 27th Chicago Sun Times.

According to the Sun Times article, "Naval regulations do not allow for the use of a 'combat V' for the Silver Star, the third-highest decoration the Navy awards. None of the other services has ever granted a Silver Star 'combat V,' either."

See Related Articles:
Kerry Blamed for Viet Vets Being Dubbed 'Atrocity Committing Monsters' POW Say (Sept. 10, 2004)
Kerry, in 1971, Admitted Writing Combat Reports (Aug. 26, 2004)
FBI Files Show Kerry Met With Communists More Than Once (June 4, 2004)
Kerry's Meeting With Communists Violated US Law, Says Author (May 20, 2004)
Kerry Lying About Anti-War Past, Supporter Alleges (March 18, 2004)

E-mail a news tip to Marc Morano.


Send a Letter to the Editor about this article.





20 posted on 09/16/2004 9:15:52 PM PDT by ppaul
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson