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Drudge - Judge orders government to find, release all Bush military records...
Drudge Report ^ | 9/16/04 | MATT KELLEY

Posted on 09/16/2004 1:52:12 PM PDT by Spackidagoosh

Edited on 09/16/2004 2:17:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON - A federal judge has ordered the Pentagon (news - web sites) to find and make public by next week any unreleased files about President Bush (news - web sites)'s Vietnam-era Air National Guard service to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by The Associated Press.

U.S. District Judge Harold Baer Jr. handed down the order late Wednesday in New York. The AP lawsuit already has led to the disclosure of previously unreleased flight logs from Bush's days piloting F-102A fighters and other jets.

Pentagon officials told Baer they plan to have their search complete by Monday. Baer ordered the Pentagon to hand over the records to the AP by Sept. 24 and provide a written statement by Sept. 29 detailing the search for more records.

"We're hopeful the Department of Defense (news - web sites) will provide a full accounting of the steps it has taken, as the judge ordered, so the public can have some assurance that there are no documents being withheld," said AP lawyer David Schulz.

White House officials have said Bush ordered the Pentagon earlier this year to conduct a thorough search for the president's records, and officials allowed reporters to review everything that was gathered back in February.

Through a series of requests under the federal open records law and a subsequent suit, the AP uncovered the flight logs, which were not part of the records the White House released earlier this year.

Both Bush's and John Kerry (news - web sites)'s service records in Vietnam have become a major issue in the presidential race. New records that have surfaced in recent weeks have raised more questions.

Bush's critics say Bush got preferential treatment as the son of a congressman and U.N. ambassador. Critics also question why Bush skipped a required medical examination in 1972 and failed to show up for drills during a six-month period that year.

Bush has repeatedly said he fulfilled all of his Air National Guard obligations.

The future president joined the Texas Air National Guard in 1968, when he graduated from Yale. He spent more than a year on active duty learning how to fly and then mostly flew in the one-seat F-102A fighters until April 1972.

The pilot logs show a shift to flights in two-seat trainer jets in March 1972, shortly before Bush quit flying. Former Air National Guard officials say that could have been because F-102A jets were not available for Bush to fly or because of other reasons, such as concerns about Bush's flight performance.

Bush skipped his required yearly medical exam in 1972 in the months after he stopped flying in April. Bush has said he moved to Alabama to work on the unsuccessful Senate campaign of a family friend.

Bush never showed up for Guard service between late April and mid-October 1972. He won approval to train with an Alabama Air National Guard unit during September, October and November 1972, but more than a dozen members of the unit at that time say they never saw him there.

The only direct record of Bush appearing at the Alabama unit's base is a January 1973 dental exam performed at that base. Bush's Texas commanders wrote in May 1973 they never saw him between May 1972 and April 1973, a time when his pay records show he trained on 14 days.

Although military regulations allowed commanders to order two years of active duty for guardsmen who missed more than three straight months of drills, that never happened to Bush. Commanders had leeway at the time to allow guardsmen to make up for missed drills.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: gwb2004; haroldbaer; judicialabuse; judicialtyranny; liberaljudgegonewild; militaryrecords; napalminthemorning; tang
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To: faithincowboys

I'm just wondering why Kerry gets a pass.

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Because he's a Democrat! You are from planet Earth, right? ;-))


181 posted on 09/16/2004 2:22:05 PM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: Kozak

No, because the AP has never made the same request for Kerry's files. Only for President Bush's files. Imagine that. Boooooo!


182 posted on 09/16/2004 2:22:05 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Elisha_Ben_Abuya
What would you fear being revealed in these records?

Doesn't matter. Private property. Nunja bidness.

183 posted on 09/16/2004 2:22:38 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: Spackidagoosh; Ernest_at_the_Beach; nutmeg; JohnHuang2; mhking; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; ...

This may have been the October Surprise that $inator Hildebea$t was talking about.

This terrible judge was also a Yalie and appointed by Bubba Clinton.

Good it is out in the open.

Now this should mean the release of John Kerry's records.


184 posted on 09/16/2004 2:22:44 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: StarCMC

This guy wants a Supreme Court spot.....He can go to
the porcelain fixture for it...as his guy won't be
there to nominate him.....keep it up...You're ass is
ours...LOL. Jake


185 posted on 09/16/2004 2:23:26 PM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: dawn53

Look, it was the same way with Clinton, when Clinton was attacked, that's when his poll numbers actually went up. You would think the Rats would have learned that lesson by now.


186 posted on 09/16/2004 2:23:33 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Spackidagoosh
I hope we can talk about Vietnam every day until November 2nd.

Observe how it is helping Kerry in Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota.

187 posted on 09/16/2004 2:23:35 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Never give in. Never give in. Never. Never. Never.)
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To: Prost1
The political is that Kerry has not signed form 180 and he wants to be Commander in Chief (CIC).

Here's a suggestion: we should all print out Form 180:

http://www.archives.gov/research_room/obtain_copies/standard_form_180.pdf

and mail it to the Kerry campaign and reporters covering Kerry.

If Kerry ever has another press conference, I want to see a reporter call him out and challenge him to sign Form 180 then and there. But I won't hold my breath.

188 posted on 09/16/2004 2:24:16 PM PDT by Bohemund
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To: Soul Seeker; All

No, they don't.

The people who went to this judge know damn well that the only thing the MSM is gonna report is that a federal judge issued an order for all of Bush's military records.

The average person on the street will think "Oooooooh, this must be serious if a federal judge got involved. I wonder what Bush is hiding".

This was geared for PR purposes...to kill Pres Bush's re-elect chances by chipping away at anything and everything.


189 posted on 09/16/2004 2:24:29 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: glock rocks

This clown damn near got the American people fired up on his decision to place all federal judges on probation and possible impeachment. He withdrew his first decision due to the uproar and pressures from his fellow lib judges.


190 posted on 09/16/2004 2:25:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: NJ_gent

I believe a first appeal of a rejection has to be made to whoever's named in the appropriate FOIA provisions. If it's gotten to court, this must have been going on for a while.


191 posted on 09/16/2004 2:25:46 PM PDT by maryz
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To: OldFriend

Its not the fact that Bush records are being released to me, its the dangerous precedent being set forward by this Judge. He is ordering the pentagon(1st overstep) to go through any and all records(including yours, including mine if need be) to fid all paper with Bush's name on it. a clear overstepping of authority and ignorance of the privacy act which used to protect everybody private info, accept in criminal cases where its devoid.


192 posted on 09/16/2004 2:25:53 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: Spackidagoosh
Reminds me of Alice in Wonderland:
Queen: Now, Ha ha... are you ready for your sentence?
Alice: Sentence? Ah, but there must be a verdict first!
Queen: Sentence first! Verdict afterwards.
Alice: But that just isn’t the way!
Queen: All ways are...
Alice: Your ways, your majesty.
Queen: Yes, my child. Off with her...
193 posted on 09/16/2004 2:26:06 PM PDT by afz400
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To: Peach

Baer, Harold Jr.
Born 1933 in New York, NY

Federal Judicial Service:
U. S. District Court, Southern District of New York
Nominated by William J. Clinton on April 26, 1994, to a seat vacated by Robert W. Sweet; Confirmed by the Senate on August 9, 1994, and received commission on August 10, 1994.


194 posted on 09/16/2004 2:26:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: IamConservative

That was my first thought! To all who have alluded to poker player President Bush, I think you're correct. He baited the AP into the FOIA and now they'll have a conundrum, there is no there there and their pro-Kerry bias is exposed.

Pentagon releases docs that confirm President Bush's points and service, (and his honorable discharge) meanwhile Kerry continues to run on his "heroism" biop without supporting docs or signing the 180.


195 posted on 09/16/2004 2:26:58 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: savedbygrace

Yeah, but judicial watch made a request for Kerry's and got tuned down by DOD. NOW if they sue they have precedent to sight.


196 posted on 09/16/2004 2:27:01 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Spackidagoosh
The AP has not asked for the military records of John Kerry. They have not asked for the FBI files on John Kerry. The AP has not asked for the Navy Reserve files for John Kerry.

So is the AP is in the same boat as Dan Rather? Are they working for the DNC and should they be boycotted just like CBS News.
197 posted on 09/16/2004 2:28:10 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: Spackidagoosh
WASHINGTON - A federal judge has ordered the Pentagon (news - web sites) to find and make public by next week any unreleased files about President Bush (news - web sites)'s Vietnam-era Air National Guard service to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by The Associated Press.

Judicial Watch has sued for Kerry's records, too. Why didn't the AP sue for Kerry's? What's up?

198 posted on 09/16/2004 2:28:12 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: savedbygrace

Booo is right! This AP "story" doesn't just report the AP's routine digging for dirt on Bush, but stuffs the "story" with all the past crud about the Pres. The AP & Rather are working day and night to save the floundering Kerry campaign.


199 posted on 09/16/2004 2:28:20 PM PDT by Original Kamaaina
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To: truthseeker2

I think so, obviously the judge watches Rather.


200 posted on 09/16/2004 2:28:36 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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