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As CBS squirms, we get a two-party press in the United States
Desert Dispatch, CA ^ | September 16, 2004 | Thinking It Through by Dr. Richard Reeb

Posted on 09/16/2004 6:59:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The greatest hopes of conservatives and the worst fears of liberals have been realized during this presidential campaign. We now have a two-party press in which much of talk radio and the Internet, Fox television network, the Washington Times and conservative magazines form a phalanx against the long domination of print and the airwaves by the New York Times, the Washington Post and their imitators; the Associated Press and Newsweek; CBS; NBC; ABC; CNN and MSNBC; and National Public Radio.

For years events were "spun" through the liberal media network with nothing but lip service to journalistic ethics and occasional letters of outrage to restrain it. But not anymore. Not only did the new media practically force the old media to acknowledge that John Kerry's fellow Swift Boat commanders in Vietnam had serious criticisms of his claims to leadership; that old media now have to choke on the "bloggers" exposure of the "memo" fraud perpetrated at CBS evening news that George W. Bush failed to fulfill his Air National Guard duties over 30 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at desertdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; conservativeliberal; kerry; killian; media; networks; newmedia; oldmedia; rather
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I USED to think O'reilly was real good. However, I found myself in disagreement more and more. I ended giving up on his show.


21 posted on 09/16/2004 7:20:16 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Polybius
We don't need a "conservative" network preaching to the choir. We need a "fair and balanced" network that will also appeal to Liberals so that the Liberals, for maybe the first time in there lives, can be exposed to points of view that have not been filtered through the Liberal news media.

Bump!

22 posted on 09/16/2004 7:20:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: television is just wrong

You're in good company.


23 posted on 09/16/2004 7:21:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: rj45mis
He tries to paint liberalism as a better alternative to conservatism and, in doing so, casts doubts in the minds of our weaker brethren.

I don't think that I want to be associated with any "brethern" who could be influenced by Alan Colmes.

24 posted on 09/16/2004 7:21:33 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I agree but I would add another enemy-- sanity. Hooray for the good guys!


25 posted on 09/16/2004 7:22:56 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good find.
It is humbling and scary to consider how much fraud and how many bald-faced lies the old media got away with over the decades before the recent emergence and dominance of the new media.


26 posted on 09/16/2004 7:24:05 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Polybius
You hit the proverbial nail on the head:

We don't need a "conservative" network preaching to the choir. We need a "fair and balanced" network that will also appeal to Liberals so that the Liberals, for maybe the first time in there lives, can be exposed to points of view that have not been filtered through the Liberal news media.

27 posted on 09/16/2004 7:24:25 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: rj45mis

Fox News is doing okay. At least we get a fair seat at the table. But, Bill O'Reilly has to go. This traitor to the good folks that made him would still be teaching in Miami if it wasn't for we conservatives that propelled him what to where he is. O'Reilly suffers from the hugh ego that says "I'm a legend in my own time"! The legend O'Reilly has is only in his own mind!!! O"Reilly has become a weak sister and has fallen in lock-step with the dark side. We conservatives should bring him down. Please stop watching his show!!!!! Let's make Hannity number one. I don't worry about Alan Colmes. The man is braindead!!!


28 posted on 09/16/2004 7:25:06 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: BnBlFlag

You are right- FOX is not as coservative as it used to be, they are bending over to appear 'fair and balanced' but unfortunatley they are trying to appear 'fair and balanced' to the other main stream media who are criticizing them.

FOX should remember where it got its success- it was 'fair and balanced' just FINE befre- and now it is leaning toward being TOO generous to liberal idiocy.


29 posted on 09/16/2004 7:25:09 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: Lancey Howard

Used to be that papers WERE tied to political parties, and clearly so. Then we got confused. Now we are back to the future. Competition is good.


30 posted on 09/16/2004 7:26:44 AM PDT by RKV ( (He who has the guns, makes the rules))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bmp


31 posted on 09/16/2004 7:30:25 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
the New York Times, the Washington Post and their imitators; the Associated Press and Newsweek; CBS; NBC; ABC; CNN and MSNBC; and National Public Radio

You forgot Reuters.

32 posted on 09/16/2004 7:31:56 AM PDT by IonInsights
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To: television is just wrong
Look, O'Reilly's a newsman. A real newsman. He's not going to run with rumors like Dan Rather, or push half-baked innuendo. Our side as no desire to change out liberal biased jerks for new conservative biased jerks. Our commentators can be conservative, our newsmen need to be fair, balanced, thoughtful, and honest. Like the people of FOX News -- O"Reilly included.

I USED to think O'reilly was real good. However, I found myself in disagreement more and more. I ended giving up on his show.

33 posted on 09/16/2004 7:34:25 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
You're right. There's somethine so self-serving about O'Reilly that it's hard to listen to him. Now he wants to be a senator from the state of New York.

He thinks he is doing the world a favor by standing up for Red-Dan Blather on the grounds that we are all innocent until proven guilty. His argument sounds like a DNC talking point more than anything else. Yuck.

34 posted on 09/16/2004 7:35:35 AM PDT by i.l.e.
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To: GOPJ
Look, O'Reilly's a newsman. A real newsman

You're using O'Reilly's syntax and verbage verbatim. Are you O'Reilly?

35 posted on 09/16/2004 7:36:43 AM PDT by i.l.e.
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How did you find this? I'm from Barstow, went to Barstow College in the 60's before Dr Reeb was there. We used to call that newspaper the "Desperate Dispatch".

They don't sound so desperate anymore.


36 posted on 09/16/2004 7:37:11 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: Polybius
We don't need a "conservative" network preaching to the choir. We need a "fair and balanced" network that will also appeal to Liberals so that the Liberals, for maybe the first time in there lives, can be exposed to points of view that have not been filtered through the Liberal news media.


I agree with you. I am firmly convinced that when the history of this time is written, the close support of the main stream media with the left is what ultimately destroyed them.

A fair and balanced press (as the founding fathers hoped for) can act as a governor on the action of those in public office. Without that governor, the "engine" runs wild, ultimately destroying itself. An honest press would have prevented the Democrats from drifting so far left there is almost no hope of them every recovering.

Contrast that with Republicans. Any hint of scandal, and the "cancer" (to change metaphors) is cut out immediately saving the main body. I trust most Republicans in public life have to know that any mistep by them will be exposed, so perhaps they are either more careful, are just don't do some of the stupid things Democrats do.

I don't want a media that is uncritical of our views, only one that is honest and fair. If we are making mistakes, I am willing to listen, and change if I am wrong. Something the left has trouble doing.

37 posted on 09/16/2004 7:38:51 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: saveliberty
Hoffer wrote about how literacy was only the domain of the elite who could then tell we poor unwashed what to think. Then revolution for liberty came when literacy became more available

Which is exactly why the Dims are so opposed to vouchers and home-schooling! The dumbing down of our nations children. Keep the citizenry uneducated and tell them that "big brother" will take care of them. Look at the state of our schools today....kids graduate from high school without being able to do simple math or read. What they are being taught is "feel good" rubbish.

The leftist/socialist/democrats keep saying that it's because the schools need more money. When I went to grade school in the 50's the schools didn't have the infastructure that they have today and we learned a hell of a lot more than these kids today.

38 posted on 09/16/2004 7:48:31 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Can The Ban - let the AWB sunset • www.2asisters.org • www.cantheban.net)
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To: BnBlFlag
Unfortunately, Fox isn't as conservative as it once was...

Not unfortunate at all. While I am a die-hard conservative, I really would like to watch a news network that is "fair and balanced." I think FNC actually strayed a little too far to the right at one time. I have to say I like its current stance. As long as they stay the course of objectivity, the other networks will continue to lose market share. One can already see the change in their primary peer-rival, CNN. Although still heavily biased, the Chicken-Noodle-News Network is not nearly as blatant as it once was. Eventually, the regular network news outlets will become caricatures of themselves and largely irrelevant.

39 posted on 09/16/2004 7:55:46 AM PDT by NCSteve
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To: GOPJ
Look, O'Reilly's a newsman. A real newsman.

Riiiight. And pigs can fly.

O'Reilly is a self-serving sensationalist who never really grew up from Inside Edition. 75% of what he does has a huge smarm quotient. I give him about as much creedence as I would John Tesh. Maybe less.

Running a tabloid TV program with stories mostly worthy of the Weekly World News and inconsistently taking opposition viewpoints does not a newsman make. O'Reilly is really just a slightly more polite version of Chris Matthews. The only difference is that while Matthews' agenda is obviously straight from the DNC, O'Reilly's agenda is simply anything that aggrandizes O'Reilly.

40 posted on 09/16/2004 8:04:02 AM PDT by NCSteve
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