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From the spectator.org days ago:

Washington Prowler
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By The Prowler
Published 9/10/2004 12:09:06 AM


More than six weeks ago, an opposition research staffer for the Democratic National Committee received documents purportedly written by President George W. Bush's Texas Air National Guard squadron commander, the late Col. Jerry Killian.

The oppo researcher claimed the source was "a retired military officer." According to a DNC staffer, the documents were seen by both senior staff members at the DNC, as well as the Kerry campaign.

"More than a couple people heard about the papers," says the DNC staffer. "I've heard that they ended up with the Kerry campaign, for them to decide to how to proceed, and presumably they were handed over to 60 Minutes, which used them the other night. But I know this much. When there was discussion here, there were doubts raised about their authenticity."

The concerns arose from the sourcing. "It wasn't clear that our source for the documents would have had access to them. Our person couldn't confirm from what file, from what original source they came from."

The documents that CBS News used were not documents from any of Bush's personnel files from his time in the National Guard. Rather, CBS News stated that they were documents uncovered in the personnel files of Killian. That would explain why the White House or the Pentagon had never before released or even seen them.

According to a Kerry campaign source, there was little gossip about the supposedly hot documents inside the office of the campaign on McPherson Square. "Those documents were not something anyone was talking about or trying to generate buzz on," says the staffer. "It wasn't like there were small groups of people talking about this as a bombshell. I think people here weren't sure what to make of it, because provenance of these documents was uncertain."

A CBS producer, who initially tipped off The Prowler about the 60 Minutes story, says that despite seeking professional assurances that the documents were legitimate, there was uncertainty even among the group of producers and researchers working on the story.

"The problem was we had one set of documents from Bush's file that had Killian calling Bush 'an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot.' And someone who Killian said 'performed in an outstanding manner.' Then you have these new documents and the tone and content are so different."

The CBS producer said that some alarms bells went off last week when the signatures and initials of Killian on the documents in hand did not match up with other documents available on the public record, but producers chose to move ahead with the story. "This was too hot not to push. If there were doubts, those people didn't show it," says the producer, who works on a rival CBS News program.

Now, the producer says, there is growing concern inside the building on 57th Street that they may have been suckered by the Kerry campaign. "There is a school of thought here that the Kerry people dumped this in our laps, figuring we'd do the heavy lifting on the story. That maybe they had doubts about these documents but hoped we'd get more information," says the producer. "If that's the case, then we're bigger fools than we already appear to be judging by all the chatter about how these documents could be forgeries."

ABC News' political unit held a conference call at 7:00 p.m. Thursday evening to discuss the memo and its potential ramifications should the documents turn out to be a forgery. That meeting took place around the time that the deceased Killian's son made public statements questioning the documents' authenticity.

According to one ABC News employee, some reporters believe that the Kerry campaign as well as the DNC were parties in duping CBS, but a smaller segment believe that both the DNC and the Kerry campaign were duped by Karl Rove, who would have engineered the flap to embarrass the opposition.


154 posted on 09/16/2004 11:06:10 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: MistyCA
Newsmax has an article written by Dem Operative, Susan Estrich, on Sept. 1 in which she states that the Democrats are going to go after Bush's service record in an underhanded way. She says:

Are you shocked? Not fair? Who said anything about fair? Remember President Dukakis? He was very fair. Now he teaches at Northeastern University. John Kerry has been very fair in dealing with the Swift Boat charges. That's why so many of my Democrat friends have decided to stop talking to the campaign, and start putting money together independently.

The arrogant little Republican boys who have been strutting around New York this week, claiming that they have this one won, would do well to take a step back. It could be a long and ugly road to November.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/9/1/90434.shtml

This was obviously coreographed.

158 posted on 09/16/2004 11:47:28 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: MistyCA
...but a smaller segment believe that both the DNC and the Kerry campaign were duped by Karl Rove,....

I seriously doubt that. Rove is not that dumb. The "Duck", that all of this walks and talks like, is the Clintons.

159 posted on 09/16/2004 12:07:11 PM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: MistyCA
Thanks for the pings.

Imagine for a moment the the stain on Monica's blue dress was a fake! Mr. Rather, what's that stain on your tie.

165 posted on 09/16/2004 12:30:57 PM PDT by eggman (CBS Lied -- the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: MistyCA

BTTT!!!!!!!


173 posted on 09/16/2004 1:29:49 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: MistyCA

Well, this much we can all agree on. CBS is a buncha dupes.


174 posted on 09/16/2004 3:41:18 PM PDT by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: MistyCA

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/045480.php

Burkett is a con.


175 posted on 09/16/2004 3:53:05 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: MistyCA
Thanks for the ping. I'll have to save this for a later read.

Brownie74

176 posted on 09/16/2004 4:39:02 PM PDT by Brownie74
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To: MistyCA

Thanks for the ping!


184 posted on 09/16/2004 8:11:07 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MistyCA
I have little doubt that Kinko's has video surveillance. The video will reveal that the guy with the Kerry button at the fax machine was retained by the DNC.
187 posted on 09/16/2004 10:37:23 PM PDT by Dataman
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To: MistyCA

Personally, the main proof the documents are completely forged is that they fail entirely to lay in the realm of possible communication from that culture within American history.

The files allude to criminal behavior. A commanding officer with any sense of command presence or wherewithal,...even if posed with the situation mentioned in the 'documents', would entirely lose any sense of command presence either up the chain or down the chain to communicate the intent contained in those documents.

At that time in US military culture, the CO indubitably was responsible and accountable for aspects within his command. His mere knowledge of any such situation as implied in the documents mandated only 2 courses of action.

On one hand the issue was either extortion or undue influence which the CO had responsibility to pursue just resolution by charging those involved with criminal behavior. The UCMJ would then prevail in resolving the situation.

On the other hand, he only had a righteous alternative to reconsider the information provided him, that the situation wasn't as the documents implied, but rather the information was a friendly suggestion by others regarding evaluations, that perhaps evaluations were unduly scrutinous, because of the evaluee's relationship with prominent figures. This tended to be the norm in that day expressed by phrases such as, "the higher up the totem pole you climb, the further out your a** hangs for eveybody to see below". The more prominent the figure, the more scrutiny received in judging his performance.

For a CO to query either his peers, seniors, or juniors as to how he should perceive or respond to allegations of illicit behavior is tantamont to a request to be relieved of command, because if the CO doesn't know how to respond, he lacks the presence, insight, and judgment to hold the position of responsibilty as a CO.

Movies such as Twelve o'Clock High and In Harm's Way and Patton came closer to describing leadership standards of that day.

Now for a CO in that culture to have had the thoughts expressed in the 'documents' indicates he probably wouldn't have survived command very long,.....let alone communicating those thoughts verbally to anybody,...let alone typing them in a fitness report for only senior eyes to review, let alone allowing an administrative junior to prepare those documents,...let alone to communicate those ideas in print to a senior,...let alone to place those ideas on unit letterhead,...all of which only escalate a prominent notion that any such author would be completely berift of any command potential is highly doubtful,..if simply outright ludicrous.


189 posted on 09/17/2004 2:19:54 AM PDT by Cvengr (;^))
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