GOODNIGHT, CLEVELAND!
Nicke Royale from The Hellacopters, who no doubt in his early days took a cue from The Ramones.
Check out The Hellacopters' DVD entitled "Goodnight Cleveland" if you want to see a good "band on the run" type rock-umentary.
Posted on 09/15/2004 8:28:23 PM PDT by JellyJam
Johnny Ramone, member of punk legends ’The Ramones,’ dies at 55
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Johnny Ramone, guitarist and co-founder of the seminal punk band “The Ramones,” has died. He was 55.
Ramone died in his sleep Wednesday afternoon at his Los Angeles home surrounded by friends and family, his publicist said. He had battled prostate cancer for five years, and was hospitalized in June at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center.
Ramone, born John Cummings, was one of the original members of the Ramones, whose hit songs “I Wanna be sedated” and “Blitzkrieg Bop,” among others, earned the band induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002.
The band’s singer, Joey Ramone, whose real name was Jeff Hyman, died in 2001 of lymphatic cancer. Bassist Dee Dee Ramone, who was born Douglas Colvin, died from a drug overdose in 2002.
Johnny Ramone founded “The Ramones” in 1974 with Joey Ramone, DeeDee Ramone and Tommy Ramone, the only surviving member of the original band.
Singer Dan Fogelberg announced a few weeks ago that he's in the advance stages of prostate cancer.
Ah man, I missed that. How old is he?
Tune into Little Steven's Underground Garage syndicated radio show. He'll give you his theory of programming that show. He says that everything he plays is centered around The Ramones. Everything that came before and influenced the band and everything that came afterwards and was influenced by the band.
They certainly helped spearhead more basic rock and roll songs in a time of extended guitar solos, prog keyboard freakouts, sensitive songwriter fern bar music such as James Taylor and Carly Simon, coked out gay disco...
Who influenced more bands in the long run, Styx or the Ramones?
If you are to claim that Led Zepplin has spawned more bands, can you point to progeny? What can we do to determine that they didn't get their sound from The Yardbirds? Or the bands that influenced the Yardbirds?
And for the record (not that you made this claim), the Ramones' songs were not "short". Look up the runtime of some of the biggest hits of the 1950s and 1960s and many of them clock in under 2:15.
No argument there. But I'd point out that the Clash wasn't so much leftist as anti-authoritarian. Their lyrics also included the lines
"If you find an Afghan rebel that the Moscow bullets missed
Ask him what he thinks of voting communist:
Ask the Dalai Lama in the hills of Tibet
How many monks did the Chinese get?"
Such manners are to be expected from someone who was indoctrinated by the slob lifestyle of your dead idol.
As I said, the country is lost.
The commies have twisted our culture and your mind.
As Reagan said about the Democrats, they left me.
I do not believe in god. When someone can explain to me what or who god is, then I might be able to decide if it or he exists.
Meanwhile and nonetheless, I'd rather have Bible-thumpers as my neighbors.
They need not wear a suit and tie.
But I would like people as my neighbors who strive to look their best rather than striving to do the opposite.
They should dress and comport themselves civily, especially when among others.
The appeal of this Ramone fellow seems to me to be based on this: The message he sends is I look like a loser, yet I am famous; so if you are a loser, that is now cool. And that gratified his fans.
I was responding to a earlier post that said that if Johnny Ramone was the face of a conservative then we are lost, I decided to make a snide comment back to him. Believe me my tattooed body belies my christianity and conservatism.
Lester travelled with the Clash to write an extended article for NME I believe.
He tried to talk politics (Marxism/socialism) with the Clash and their fans but neither group seemed interested (and Lester even says that the fans are not attracted to the band because of any political content in the songs).
One day, when I have accomplished enough to earn one, I hope to get at least tattoo.
Bye Johnny we'll miss ya, hey talk to Joey up there will ya, you we're a friend and we will miss you but Ramones music will live on for eternity. My suggestion to you all is grab your favorite elixer, crank up Cretin Hop and dance, we are.
The Ramones covered the Seeds' Can't Seem To Make You Mine. The Seeds are going on the road next week:
9/24/04 wwwrockaround.net @ Goldcoast Casino Vegas, NV.
Austin TX. @ Emo's Sept 30th!
10/1 @Rock-N-Bowl www.ponderosastomp.com New Olreans LA.
10/3 @ Beachland Ballroom Cleaveland, OH.
10/4 @ Double Door Chicago, IL.
10/5 @ Magic Stick Detroit MI.
10/8 @ Maxwell's Newark NJ.
10/9 @ Southpaw Brooklyn NY.
West Coast Dates TBA europe feb. 05'
GOODNIGHT, CLEVELAND!
Nicke Royale from The Hellacopters, who no doubt in his early days took a cue from The Ramones.
Check out The Hellacopters' DVD entitled "Goodnight Cleveland" if you want to see a good "band on the run" type rock-umentary.
I've always though of the Ramones as NYC's version of the Beach Boys. The BB's represented the west coast and the Ramones the east. The pace (between the two) has to be measured in warp factors!
And Joey did an awsome version of 'Wonderful World'
DAMN! Three fourths of the band gone! I'd heard from a friend who works for Rhino Records that Johnny was very sick. I saw him at Amoeba records in Hollywood a couple of years ago, just browsing through the discs with some hot girl. I thought how cool it was that a rock legend was just hanging out at a record store, no pretense or big deal. And he was a Republican. BTW, it said in the paper that Eddie Vedder was by his side when he died. I hope Johhny's last words to asshat Eddie were "God bless President Bush," as he said at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. How it must kill Angry Eddie to know that his hero was an admirer of the president.
I have no liking for the Ramones or punk music. My favorite Music from the early 80s were two albums by the Talking Heads after they broke out of punk. Both bands were graduates of CBGBs and it's scene. "Remain in Light" is a great album.
But at least Johnny Ramone had Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck listed as his favorite guitarists
The Clash is far superior to the Ramones.
If they inspired the Clash they justified their existence. Since I do consider the Clash one of the greatest bands ever not the greatest but close.
Sex Pistols suck since they had no musical talent and I never listen to them. The only positive or worthy product of the Punk movement was the Clash. I don't like or listen to Styx.
Was Little Steven the guy in the Pulp Fiction soundtrack?
Tune length in the 50s and 60s was determined by the 45 technology they were pointed toward.
Agreed.
Good example, good song too ("Washington Bullets"). I read in "The Last Gang in Town" that Strummer wanted to provide a little balance to all the criticism of the US on "Sandanista!" so he came up with those lyrics. Their infatuation with the Sandys was based more on a liking for the fact that they toppled a horrible dictatorship than on love for Ortega, though I wonder if they ever regretted being such obvious supporters (FSLN bandanas and the like). Again, "The Last Gang in Town" (great Clash bio) points out that naming their album Sandanista and all the pro-FSLN stuff was more symbolic than explicit approval of the Sandys per se. Still, as PJ O'Rourke said about the Sandys and the fact that they did get rid of the awful Somoza, "It's one thing to burn down the shithouse and another to install plumbing." I also read on FR that Strummer made some comments saying that Islamic fundamentalism was a threat to freedom or something of the like.
Johnny was allways a great guy when I spoke with him.
RIP
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