Posted on 09/15/2004 8:10:12 PM PDT by Pharmer
I think that it is safe to say that this whole Rathergate/memogate stuff at this point is just out of control. If your ten year old got caught in a fib and continued to behave in this way even the most "progressive" of parents would would have this child have a close encounter with a razor strap. So why is CBS carrying on this way? I have heard many intresting theories posted here, on talk radio, and other places.
So let's review some of them. First we all know that the Swift Boat dudes was a shot in Kerry's solar plexis. It wasn't fatal but it caught him off guard and knocked the wind out of him. Kerry knows that has exposed his glass jaw and the swifties moving in with more even more devastaing blows. We all can aggree the TANG story was resurected for the umpteenth time to clearly to blunt any future efforts.
And if you look at the "suspicious timing" of media events we have:
a) The 60 minutes story Wednesday night producing documents from one of Bush's TANG officers that seem to imply that he had a different opinion of the young leutenant that he told his wife and and son and left a letter of commendation in Bush's personnel file.
b) Terry McAufull and Tom Harkin racing to the microphone Thursday morning to damand Bush answer the charges as to why he failed to show up for a physical as to set up
c) The Kitty Kelly cocaine story and voila!
d) Bush is a coke head just who ducked a physical with a drug test (in 1972! Before Nancy said NO) as we thought back in 2000 but now we have a paper trail!
But as we now know as in the the best laid plans of mice and men, the initial key components the documents were baltant and amatuerish forgeries. This blew the whole plan out of the water faster than a submerged mine blew up the number 3 boat. Just like Kerry did then the MSM ran from this story so fast it wasn't funny. They knew they were sunk, busted and had! I wouldn't be surprised that when all is said and done that whoever the source of these document was may have shopped them around to various media outlets before CBS took the bait. And most of them might have come to the same conclusions it took us "amatuer" Freepers and Buckhead 59 minutes to figure out: these were Cracker Jack Box phonies.
So why after being caught in such a blatant lie is CBS continuing to stand by this story when the scheme has been exposed? Some say arogance. Some say that CBS is covering for its source. I have a sneaking suspicion that more is afoot.
Remember when Richard Ben-Veniste during the 9/11 hearings tried to embarass John Ashcroft by asking him why he stopped flying commercial a month prior to 9/11? or how about when Bush had that press conference last spring and the press repeatedly tried to embarass Bush with stupid questions and get him to "apologize" for Iraq?
Well guess whats comming up? The debates. And who is moderating one of those debates? Bob Schieffer. And who does Bob Schieffer work for...? CBS!!! Don't be surprised if Scheifer askes "Mr president, last month the 60 minutes raise questions based on documents attributed to your former commanding officer in the Texas Air National Guard. To date you have not addressed those questions. Don't you think that tonight you answer those questions for the American people?" No matter what other questions asked in those debates that one will have justified the stonewalling we see now and that I think is the end-game. They want to embarass him with a phony question live and right in front of Kerry. Don't get me wrong, I think he'll handle it fine and with dignity. But knowing the contempt that these guys have for Bush they think this might just do him in.
"lets take care of it now (what can we do)?"
Sit tight and see what the new docs are. I'm making a reasoned guess on what they are, but I could be completely wrong. If they are the two other docs, then they were produced by the same bunglers and discredited immediately. If something else, the "war room" at the WH will consider the best possible approach.
I was doing some oppo research. I actually went to some of these bizarre anti-Bush sites to see what they've got. There is no direct factual evidence quoted by any of them
that I can see would tie the President to drugs IMHO. It's got to be way more than hearsay or bungled forgeries. If there had been something, it would have been brought out in 2000. The best they could do was the DUI, nothing worse.
Yes, that was hilarious. Poor Williams--I think he really doesn't care that much because it was clear that he hadn't even been following the story. I laughed when he said that the point was that Bush disobeyed an order to report to a physical when the whole purpose of that document was to "prove" that Bush was given such an order. It is ridiculous to assume that statements made in a forged document are true when the same forged documents are the only source of those assertions. Hume, sharp as a tack, blasted him immediately for that and you could see the other guys trying hard not to fall apart laughing. A great TV moment.
Well, based on what has been posted here, I am betting that those other two docs where the ones being "held" for a later date.
TOAST. :)
So maybe I am simply getting too uptight. I sincerly hope we see some major poll swings. maybe we have with the ny and nj bumps recently released.
Are you sure that's not what you're doing here at FR?
Nope. You've lost me. Who? Who's a freeper sleeper?
The stark difference between Rather and Nixon is, Nixon apologized and resigned at noon the next day. Rather insists on sandbagging the newsroom.
Caddell also did a stand-up job commenting on Hardball during the Florida Fiasco.
Someone on another thread posited that CBS is holding out because they have hand-written notes and are waiting for a Bush denial before releasing them as a 'Gotcha' - thoughts?
Should John Kerry demand that CBS and Rather scrap this insane smear just like he whined that the President should call off the Swifties?
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absolutely not. I hate going to those sites. They leave a dirty taste in my mouth, not to mention they have the most incredibly bizarre ideas I've ever seen.
If anything can help the President, I will do research. Otherwise I am prayer support for his re-election and have been for 4 years.
Tough call; one for another thread perhaps because it's an extremely important issue now. I agree that hearings now would be spun against Bush as "partisan attacks on freedom of the press". At the same time, an MSM collaborates with the DNC or its operatives--wittingly or unwittingly--in order to gin-up the most important national election in fifty years. Legal action would provide attorney-client privilege cover for CBS, so no revelations would come out until real hearings start, which would not be until after the election I imagine. I say do the FEC or criminal charges route after the election (unless we get a full confession before then).
There are several things going on here at once. The first is that memogate was supposed to be the first hit in a one, two punch. The second hit was/is supposed to be the October surprise. That was supposed to be another memo which indicated that a pilot named Bath, was grounded at the same time as Bush for using cocaine, Rather was/is going to say that through guilt by association, Bush used cocaine also and was afraid to take the physical because he might get caught in the newly instituted drug testing. (I've been told that drug testing didn't start until 1982).
The second reason is that the DNC doesn't care about the veracity of the story. They passed the memos to Dan because they knew he would run with them and that's what they wanted. (Dan is computer illiterate) The DNC just wants to fill the air waves with so much garbage that the voters tune out all the truthful allegations about Kerry's Vietnam service. Their purpose isn't a Kerry win, however, they just want to insure that Bush has no coat tails in the congressional elections. Got it?
Sorry. I just noticed a couple of posters on this thread that seemed like trolls trying not very hard to blend in. Then I went to DU to look around because that is a bad habit I have. I found that hysterical post and came back here to share it. The imaginary freeper sleeper was at DU, not here.
All clear now?
Good. I think I will go to bed.
Homey
Bush is above it all. It's not his concern. He's working. Others will take care of the little democrat stuff.
Oddly enough, CBS is doing the wrong thing from a pure ratings perspective. They are obviously in the best position to "scoop" the real story.
This forgery story is getting old. It's been proven a forgery, so it's getting boring anyway.
Remember, the Silver Star with Combat V citation that appears on Kerry's campaign Web site bears the signature of former Navy Secretary John Lehman. But Lehman said that he never signed the Kerry award, raising questions about whether his signature had been forged.
I don't think so. I honestly don't believe that anyone who took Rather seriously last month would be all that effected by irrefutable proof that he is a certifiably perfect fraud this month.
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