Posted on 09/15/2004 5:44:51 PM PDT by John Jorsett
While CBS continues to treat the viewing public like idiots, theyve sent a much more detailed statement to their affiliate stations. An undercover lizardoid operative has forwarded the statement to me:
September 15, 2004
MARION CARR KNOX, SECRETARY OF LT. COL. JERRY KILLIAN, TO APPEAR ON 60 MINUTES TONIGHT IN FIRST TELEVISION INTERVIEW
CBS NEWS AFFIRMS ITS INTENTION TO CONTINUE TO REPORT ALL ASPECTS OF THE STORY
Marion Carr Knox, the secretary of Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, whose personal memos were part of a report on last Wednesdays (8) 60 MINUTES broadcast regarding questions about President Bushs service at the Texas Air National Guard, will appear in a report on 60 MINUTES tonight (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
In the interview, Ms. Knox states that she does not believe the memos are genuine. However, she confirms that the content of the memos does reflect the feelings of Lt. Col. Killian at the time and accurately portrays events that were taking place in connection with then-Lt. Bushs Texas Air National Guard service.
I know that I didnt type em. However, the information in those is correct, Ms. Knox told CBS News for tonights broadcast.
In light of the questions about that original 60 MINUTES Wednesday report, CBS News states that it will redouble its efforts to continue reporting aggressively on all aspects of the story, in an effort to resolve those questions. Tonights 60 MINUTES interview with Ms. Knox is part of that effort.
The CBS News report was based on a preponderance of evidence: many interviews, both on- and off-camera, with individuals with direct and indirect knowledge of the situation, atmosphere and events of the period in question, as well as the procedures, character and thinking of Lt. Col. Killian, Lt. Bushs squadron commander in the Guard, at the time.
The report also included the first television interview with Ben Barnes, a Democrat and current fundraiser for John Kerry, who said he helped get Mr. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard at the request of a Bush family friend.
Numerous questions have been raised about the authenticity of the documents. CBS News believes it is important for the news media to be accountable and address legitimate questions.
Procurement of The DocumentsThe 60 MINUTES Wednesday broadcast reported that it obtained six documents from the personal files of Lt. Col. Killian, four of which were used in the broadcast. In accordance with longstanding journalistic ethics, CBS News is not prepared to reveal its confidential sources or the method by which 60 MINUTES Wednesday received the documents. CBS News reporting determined that the source of the memos had access to the documents he provided and an opportunity to obtain copies of them. Our sources included individuals who had first-hand knowledge of the events in question.
Additionally, Mary Mapes, the producer of the report and a well-respected, veteran journalist whose credibility has never been questioned, has been following this story for more than five years. She has a vast and detailed knowledge of the issues surrounding President Bushs service in the Guard and of the individuals involved in the story. Before the report was broadcast, it was vetted and screened in accordance with CBS News standards by several veteran 60 MINUTES Wednesday senior producers and CBS News executives.
Authentication of the Documents
Four independent individuals with expertise in the authentication of documents were consulted prior to the broadcast of the story regarding the documents 60 MINUTES Wednesday obtained: document examiners Marcel B. Matley, James J. Pierce, Emily Will and Linda James.
As CBS News has publicly stated, the documents used in the report were photocopies of originals.
Two of the examiners, Mssrs. Matley and Pierce, attested and continue to attest to their belief in the documents authenticity. (see attachments 1 and 2) Two others, Ms. Will and Ms. James, appeared on a competing network yesterday, where they misrepresented their conversations and communication with CBS News. In fact, they assessed only one of the four documents used in the report, and while one of them raised a question about one aspect of that one document, they did not raise substantial objections or render definitive judgment on the document. Ultimately, they played a peripheral role in the authentication process and deferred to Mr. Matley, who examined all four of the documents used.
Additionally, two more individuals with specific expertise relative to the documents - Bill Glennon, a technology consultant and long-time IBM typewriter service technician, and Richard Katz, a computer software expert - were asked to examine the documents after the broadcast for a report in the Sept. 13 CBS EVENING NEWS. They, too, found nothing to lead them to believe that the documents did not date back to the early 1970s. They strongly refuted the claim made by some critics that there were no typewriters in existence in the early 1970s that could have produced such documents. (see attachments 3 and 4)
CBS News Experts Conclusions About the Documents
- Katz believes the documents were written on a typewriter and not a computer. (attachment 3)
- Glennon confirms that the superscript th and proportional spacing of the typeface of the four documents were definitely available on typewriters as early as the late 1960s. (attachment 4)
- Pierce believes that the documents in question are authentic as best as he can determine, given that they are copies and not originals. (attachment 2)
- Matley says the signatures are, indeed, Killians. (attachment 1)
Again, the documents used for the 60 MINUTES Wednesday report were copies, and most of the analysis fueling the current controversy is based on scanned, downloaded, faxed or re-copied copies. For now, the disagreements among dueling experts have not been resolved.
Other Issues
Maj. Gen. Bobby Hodges, who was group commander of Lt. Bushs squadron, has stated to The New York Times and Los Angeles Times, among others, that he believes the documents are not real, but also told The New York Times, in an article that appeared on Sept. 12, that the information in the CBS News report ...reflected issues he and Col. Killian had discussed-namely Mr. Bushs failure to appear for a physical, which military records released previously by the White House show, led to a suspension from flying. That is consistent with what he told CBS News off-camera as part of the research for this report.
A reference in one memo to Gen. Buck Staudt applying pressure on behalf of Lt. Bush raised questions because Staudt had left his job 18 months before the memo was written. But CBS News background reporting determined that Staudt remained a powerful figure in the Guard for years after his retirement, a fact that is confirmed by Ms. Knox in a newspaper interview. More importantly, the same memo referred to unhappiness in Austin, an obvious reference to Staudts successor at the Austin, Texas, headquarters of the Texas Air National Guard.
Conclusions
The editorial content of the report was not based solely on the physical documents, but also on numerous credible sources who supported what the documents said.
Through all of the frenzied debate of the past week, the basic content of the 60 MINUTES Wednesday report - that President Bush received preferential treatment to gain entrance to the Texas Air National Guard and that he may not have fulfilled all of the requirements has not been substantially challenged.
CBS News will make every effort to resolve the contradictions and answer the unanswered questions about the documents and will continue to report on all aspects of the story.
Absolutely amazing. So theyre following the lead of the New York Times, who declared the memos Fake ... But Accurate!
thank you for posting this
But you-know-what flows downhill, and the affiliates will feel the effect of people tuning out long before the net will. Or before the net will care.
Advice for the affiliates: Grow a pair.
Any word on the attachments?
If so, please post or provide link.
Wishful thinking by CBS but that is clearly bunk!
Regarding which, see this: Real Killian Memo Praises Bush.
CBS to its affiliates: Screw you.
CBS says forgers are entitled to confidentality. CBS is openly aiding and abettng a felony.
Thanks for the info. I thought the people at CBS were grownups, but that doesn't look to be the case.
They have no idea how serious this is. They're going to find out.
Even their own liberal witness says the memos are NOT genuine! Sheesh, when you come right down to it, Marian Carr Knox doesn't add much in support of what Dan Rather and Mary Mapes are looking for other than her opinion about Bush. Is this the hat great journalists hang their careers on? Tonight's show brings to mind the old saw to the effect you can't make something out of nothing. They're just too deep in it now to back out and admit there's ZIP, ZERO, ZILCH NADA to their story.
Of possible interest ping.
"...whose personal memos were part of a report on last Wednesdays (8) 60 MINUTES broadcast..."
"Additionally, Mary Mapes, the producer of the report and a well-respected, veteran journalist whose credibility has never been questioned, has been following this story for more than five years. She has a vast and detailed knowledge of the issues surrounding President Bushs service in the Guard and of the individuals involved in the story. Before the report was broadcast, it was vetted and screened in accordance with CBS News standards by several veteran 60 MINUTES Wednesday senior producers and CBS News executives.
Five years....and they NEVER talked to Marian Knox until TODAY?????
Unsaid: The other sources are no more credible than the documents.
Moreover, they are still using the contents of the photocopies to build their claim, such as the supposed interference of Col Staudt. So the focus of the attack on CBS must remain their photocopies of unknown provenance.
They didn't have ONE person on to talk about the fraud aspect, or the source, or whether they had the orginal documents, or why the originals were not available, or....
What a bunch of Dan Rather
So, let me get this straight.
We're supposed to believe this lady over and above Killian's wife and son?
Killian's son has said that Knox was just in a secretarial pool, not Killian's secretary.
This is just unbelievable!
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