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Live Thread: CBS Defense of Fraud Memos, 5pm EST
Free Republic ^ | 15 Sept 2004 | gobucks

Posted on 09/15/2004 1:59:55 PM PDT by gobucks

Howlin set a great example last sept 8th when he started a live thread for the 60 minutes II story.

Let's see how much squirmin we here ....


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cbs; hoax
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To: TomEwall
What I'm wanting to know is how likely it is that the Kerry campaign had anything to do with supplying the forged documents to CBS?

How likely is it that Rnather will vote for Kerry?

641 posted on 09/15/2004 3:57:55 PM PDT by Rokurota
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Last week she didn't know a thing about the memos or George W. Bush.


642 posted on 09/15/2004 3:58:17 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: icarix
I prefer the term PAJAMARAZZI: like paparazzi: always watching...except we wear our jammies.
643 posted on 09/15/2004 3:58:45 PM PDT by Petronski (SeeBS: have truer words ever been spoken?)
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To: Rokurota

If Everyone Keeps Digging... The Source Will Be Found, betcha!


644 posted on 09/15/2004 3:59:03 PM PDT by WashStateGirl
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To: Howlin
Stubborn Juan said what is the larger fact is that GWB didn't take the physical. Brit patiently repeated what's been said by GWB over and over -- since he wasn't going to be flying planes in Alabama, the physical was unnecessary.

I suspect CBS was going to concede this afternoon but subsequently convinced Killian's secretary to play ball with them.

645 posted on 09/15/2004 3:59:16 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: Right_in_Virginia

That was god tv....I was hoping Brit would slap Juan upside his head.......btw..Dan is insane and CBS is covering for him.


646 posted on 09/15/2004 3:59:21 PM PDT by mystery-ak (DNC=girlymen)
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To: EDINVA

Write to FOX and have them interview Killian's family on Hannity and Colmes.

hannity@foxnews.com


647 posted on 09/15/2004 3:59:37 PM PDT by ColoCdn ( (Answer: Truth, Courage, Undaunted Perservance! Question: What are antonyms for CBS?))
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To: Howlin

Next we'll hear from the secretary about how she erased 20 minutes in a tape recording... LOL!!!


648 posted on 09/15/2004 3:59:51 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Petronski

I like that better! What do we know we about this women exactly?


649 posted on 09/15/2004 4:00:05 PM PDT by icarix
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To: icarix

oooooooo, new evidence and new questions. No frilly silkies for me tonight. I'm laying out the rough flannels. It's time to rumble with rather.


650 posted on 09/15/2004 4:00:28 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: Peach

Thanks for the report, Peach. I have been wishing to have CBS news off the radio for years. If they stonewall long enough, maybe it will happen in many cities.


651 posted on 09/15/2004 4:00:40 PM PDT by maica
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To: Petronski

Pajamarazzi it is!!


652 posted on 09/15/2004 4:00:47 PM PDT by ColoCdn (Only after all journalists wear pajamas will we be safe!))
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To: gobucks
He is, however, an alum of the Sam Houston Teachers College I've heard....

I thought it was the Sam Houston Institute of Technology.

653 posted on 09/15/2004 4:01:30 PM PDT by Erasmus
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To: Peach
He is relying on the veracity of forged documents. (hitting my head against a wall)

Because he WANTS to believe the story is true .. REGARDLESS of the facts

654 posted on 09/15/2004 4:01:32 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: icarix
Well, any good PAJAMARAZZI knows, she's quoted as saying Bush is 'unfit for command' and 'selected, not elected.' And she's 86 years old.

Need I say anything more?

655 posted on 09/15/2004 4:01:44 PM PDT by Petronski (SeeBS: have truer words ever been spoken?)
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To: icarix
"pajamanatti prepare!!!"

What fun!!!CBS delayed their response in "CBS Nightly News" UNTIL AFTER the Fox News Panel's 1st break.

Desperado.
656 posted on 09/15/2004 4:02:03 PM PDT by CaptSkip (Behold the power of TNM: TheNewMedia)
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To: Peach

In a court of law these docs(evidence) would be thrown out and all info in them disgarded, yet, CBS wants us to believe the contents of forged docs.....my head hurts really bad...Advil, anyone?


657 posted on 09/15/2004 4:02:36 PM PDT by mystery-ak (DNC=girlymen)
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To: Mo1

COURAGE FELLOW FREEPERS!

Rome wasn't burnt in a day!


658 posted on 09/15/2004 4:02:57 PM PDT by ColoCdn (Only after all journalists wear pajamas will we be safe!))
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To: Mo1

The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it. -- George Bernard Shaw


659 posted on 09/15/2004 4:03:17 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Daddy, are there bad men on your planes?")
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To: icarix
Posted at 11:30pm EDT 9/14 BC-Bush Guard-Questions, 2nd Ld-Writethru,0852 Reports fuel doubts on documents used in CBS News story on Bush's National Guard Service Eds: LEADS throughout to add comment from second document expert. Edits to trim. No pickup. By DAVID BAUDER AP Television Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - Two experts hired by CBS News to examine records of President Bush's Vietnam-era service in the Texas Air National Guard told ABC on Tuesday that they could not vouch for the documents' veracity.

Meanwhile, a former secretary in the guard said she believed the documents CBS used were fake, although they accurately reflected the thoughts of one of Bush's commanders.

As questions continued about Dan Rather's report on "60 Minutes" last week, CBS News on Tuesday said it did not rely on assessments made by the two examiners quoted in the ABC report, and found it notable the secretary affirmed the content of the documents.

"We continue to believe in this story," said Betsy West, CBS News' senior vice president.

CBS said its story about Bush's guard service relied on much more than documents. But the controversy has raised credibility questions for the network news division and it's not certain if those questions will be definitively answered.

CBS says the documents from one of Bush's commanders, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, indicated Bush didn't follow orders to take a physical and that Killian was being pressured to sugarcoat his performance ratings. Bush's father was a Texas congressman at the time.

Questions were immediately raised about the documents' legitimacy, with some believing they were produced by a computer not available at the time.

Emily Will, a documents examiner from North Carolina hired by CBS, said she told the network before the report aired that she questioned handwriting in the documents she was shown and whether it could have been produced by a typewriter.

Her main concern was that she was not provided a known sample of the signature to use for comparison.

"Although I never told them, and I still would say the documents were definitely not authentic, I had some problems with the documents," Will told The Associated Press late Tuesday.

Will said she e-mailed a CBS producer and urged her the night before the broadcast not to play up that a professional document examiner had authenticated the papers.

"I did not feel that they wanted to investigate it very deeply," Will told ABC News.

Another expert hired by CBS, Linda James of Plano, Texas, told ABC that "I did not authenticate anything and I don't want it understood that I did."

James told AP late Tuesday she raised similar concerns about signature samples.

"I really pressed that because I knew that other document examiners looking at the same documents would have a real problem authenticating these," she said.

CBS News said that Will and James played only a "peripheral role" in assessing the documents, and had seen only one of the four used in the report. Ultimately they deferred to another expert who has seen all four documents, Marcel Matley, and who continues to back up CBS' account.

West said Will did not contact the network the night before the report aired.

"I am not aware of any substantive objections raised," she said. "She did not urge us to hold the story."

James told CBS News that she needed to know more about the documents before rendering any judgments, West said. CBS contacted five document experts before the report aired and two since, and continues to report the story, the network said.

Killian's former secretary, 86-year-old Marian Carr Knox, also questioned the documents in an interview with The Dallas Morning News.

"These are not real," Knox said in a story posted Tuesday on the newspaper's Web site. "They're not what I typed, and I would have typed them for him."

Knox told the newspaper she did not recall typing the memos, but that they echoed Killian's views on Bush. She said he retained memos for a personal "cover his back" file he kept in a locked drawer of his desk, but she was not sure what happened to them when he died in 1984.

When contacted Tuesday at her Houston home, Knox's son, Pat Carr, told The Associated Press his mother did not wish to elaborate on her comments to the newspaper.

CBS News spokeswoman Sandra Genelius said CBS did not believe Knox was a documents expert and that the network believes the documents are genuine.

"It is notable that she confirms the content of the documents, which was the primary focus of our story in the first place," Genelius said.

First lady Laura Bush was the first in the GOP campaign to say the latest documents were probably forged.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said said the first lady was speaking for herself and that Bush felt no need to further address questions about his National Guard service. The White House has not come to any conclusions about the documents and is not investigating them, he said.

660 posted on 09/15/2004 4:05:27 PM PDT by fidelio
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