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Read that last paragraph -- these are the current Dem talking points.

"We don't need no stinking evidence".

But even the LAT admits that in view of the amount of evidence about the memos being fake, "it would require a willful suspension of disbelief to take them as merely coincidental."

1 posted on 09/14/2004 8:40:31 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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What a snotty little editorial.

They know they've been had, and are pissed.


2 posted on 09/14/2004 8:43:33 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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Is this an editorial?


3 posted on 09/14/2004 8:43:44 PM PDT by spyone
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And, during the Vietnam draft, nobody went into the National Guard out of passion to defend his country.

I would not want to be found on the side of those who make such a sweeping assertion.

4 posted on 09/14/2004 8:44:01 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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It's OK, "Bush didn't show" is going to pale in comparison to "Kerry Killed the Kid" that is going across the web now.

http://www.newscentral.tv

Bring in on? - OK, we will!
5 posted on 09/14/2004 8:44:33 PM PDT by macsmind76 ("thou shalt not get away with it!")
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What do they mean that CBS has been had? The people at CBS cannot be such rubes that they did not suspect the docs as frauds. They willfully chose to go along with the scam. In my mind, they are not victims but accessories to a crime.
9 posted on 09/14/2004 8:47:01 PM PDT by camboianchristmas (Please feel free to blame my poor spelling on the public school system)
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WHERE IN THE _____ DID THIS PARAGRAPH FIT IN? Notice the BIAS leaning words? Must have been added later by the left leaning editor. It certainly doesn't fit the style of pattern of the rest of the article. JMO

CBS may have managed to place Bush's Vietnam-era service off-limits as a campaign issue, after weeks when John F. Kerry's impressive record has been under savage attack. Bush gave a smirky speech Monday to the National Guard Assn., waxing on about the patriotic sacrifices of the Guard's men and women over the years.

11 posted on 09/14/2004 8:48:56 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Bush Democrats = Zell's Angels)
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The LAT piece reflects well the liberal frustration with CBS. And Kerry's record in Nam was indeed "impressive." It certainly "impressed" me. It is "impressed" on my mind. I will not soon forget it.


17 posted on 09/14/2004 8:55:40 PM PDT by Torie
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I guess we forgot that Bill Clinton went to Oxford U in England to avoid service? And that was ok with the Democrats, But Bush in the Guard wasn't enough?

Face it, all of our politicians are being bred from family and party lines. There is a whole lot of spoon feeding going on on both sides of the political spectrum. Can anyone name a current US Senator or Representitive's son who is serving in Iraq currently? Whats new?

As far as CBS News, Their obligation is to report the news, not fabricate it. If it wasn't for NFL on CBS, I would never watch the network anyhow. Rather's lack of credibility has been evident to me for years. Whats new?
Other than CBS has a vendetta against President Bush.
At least it is completely verifiable.


18 posted on 09/14/2004 8:55:49 PM PDT by o_zarkman44
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Brent Bozell did a good job of shouting down Alan Colmes tonight. he said "Why should anyone answer claims made in a fraudulent document?"

I would compare this to a Bank Manager holding a forged check in his hand that was stolen from George W. Bush, and asking him what he was doing in the Whore House the check was written to

19 posted on 09/14/2004 8:57:43 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says He Can Do a Better Job of Implementing President Bush's Policies :-))
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The CBS papers represent a willful, illegal attempt to influence an election, and to unlawfully divert a large corporation's assets to the service of the democrats.

CBS intends to escape responsibility by claiming it was merely "had," and that no evidence of its false claims was ever needed.

Just as the war on our foreign enemies may last decades, the war on the lying bastards at CBS will take a long time. I look forward to the day when Viacom/CBS is no longer in the news business, when any corporate or legal preferences or licenses it now enjoys as a media company are revoked, and when its shares are selling at a tiny fraction of today's prices.

Vengeance is a terrible thing...for the recipient. I think I speak for millions of Americans who feel, strongly and deeply, they have been betrayed, exactly and in the same way as America was betrayed by Japan at Pearl Harbor.


24 posted on 09/14/2004 9:03:46 PM PDT by Tax Government (Wage unrelenting economic war on the illiterate, stupid lying bastards at CBS.)
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I noticed that the DUmmies haven't been saying much about the memos for the past few days but now they are weighing in again on this in their hilarious fashion. Here are some recent DUmmie posts on this topic:

To hell with the memos! I'd like to see the goddamned media focus on Bush's CURRENT record. (Which is only a continuation of his past record.)

Right. So CBS News presses ahead knowing that the documents... ...were forgeries? I don't think so. I bet for every one of the experts noted in the WP article, CBS has at least five stating that the documents are real.

There's nothing.. in the memos that is scandalous enough to warrant this level of hype over them being a possible forgery. So, what's all the fuss about?

If the documents are a forgery, only Karl Rove would have put those papers out there. It is consistent with his trickery. In the 2000 campaign, Rove put out braking news, the same day of the first debate, of a tape sent to him of Gore's debate strategy. No one ever saw the tape because it was all a lie placed by Karl Rove to steal news time away from the debate. Rove has played many of the same tricks in the past.

How do we know Karl Rove is not behind this ?

It's up to rove to prove he is not guilty of this Just like it's up to those that believe the docs are forged to prove they are forged.

There is NO evidence to collaborate forgery! That is why CBS is sticking to its story.

26 posted on 09/14/2004 9:05:39 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (I hereby nominate Buckhead as the FREEPER OF THE YEAR!!!)
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CBS may have managed to place Bush's Vietnam-era service off-limits as a campaign issue, after weeks when John F. Kerry's impressive record has been under savage attack. Bush gave a smirky speech Monday to the National Guard Assn., waxing on about the patriotic sacrifices of the Guard's men and women over the years.

That IS a snarky little jewel, isn't it?

"Since that fumbling bumbler at CBS has taken Bush's National Guard service off the table, well, we'll just spew out a gratuitous personal insult. So, there!"

The left is coming unhinged.

27 posted on 09/14/2004 9:06:36 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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More crappy propaganda from the LAT. Yep, no WAY Blather could have known IN ADVANCE that the copies were fakes. /warc


33 posted on 09/14/2004 9:15:07 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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dem logic is a curious thing


40 posted on 09/14/2004 9:18:44 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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I wonder if CBS is paying attention to the pounding they are getting in the rest of MSM. Rather must live in an Ivory Tower served by yes men if he hasn't noticed.

I wonder how far CBS will go to back his story this time. Can CBS afford to have 60 Minutes damaged for the sake of Rather's vanity?

41 posted on 09/14/2004 9:21:35 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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"Bush pulled strings to get into the National Guard. And, during the Vietnam draft, nobody went into the National Guard out of passion to defend his country."

1. Who were the strings? 2. Wannabe pilots could jump over the waiting list to get into the National Guard because of their skills and brains. 3. George W. Bush, during pilot training in 1968, is on record of volunteering to go to Vietnam as a pilot. 4. After training, the military was no longer going to use the type of jet Bush was trained on.
5. Since George Bush's pilot training wasn't going to be of any worth to the military, Bush decided to just finish out his stinct and move on.
6. George Bush received an 'honorable discharge'. 7. Honorable discharge proves one was an obediate soldier and fullfilled his duties.


45 posted on 09/14/2004 9:25:13 PM PDT by moonman
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But who fed a seeming ringer to CBS, and why did the network fall for it?

Who do you think, LA Times? Hint: it wasn't Karl Rove.

51 posted on 09/15/2004 1:55:02 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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