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Bloggers as Reporters
Poynter Online ^ | September 13, 2004 | Paul Grabowicz

Posted on 09/14/2004 9:52:31 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative

Weblogs again are playing a central role in a major story -- this time the uproar over the veracity of old memos cited in a "60 Minutes" report questioning President Bush's National Guard record.

But this go-around shows how the blogosphere may be maturing from a medium characterized by just commentary and the usual anti-media hyperventilation to one where reporting skills are also taking center stage.

Bloggers with expertise in the arcana of type fonts and typewriters have weighed in on the debate, while others have unearthed old manuals on the capabilities of electric typewriters, described military protocols in preparing official memos, or interviewed experts in handwriting analysis.

The Los Angeles Times has a wrap-up story detailing how blogs advanced the story. Or go directly to weblogs like Power Line or Free Republic (where questions about the memos apparently first surfaced). And for blog reporting that supports the authenticity of the memos, check the postings at the Daily Kos.

One lesson in all this is that the old days of news-media control of the information flow are rapidly fading. Reporters need to figure out how to work with blogs and the rest of the online world in reporting a story, rather than just dismissing them as a distraction or annoyance.

Comments like this from Dan Rather -- "Until someone shows me definitive proof (the memos are not authentic), I don't see any reason to carry on a conversation with the professional rumor mill" -- just don't cut it anymore.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: rathergate; thenewmedia
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1 posted on 09/14/2004 9:52:31 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: optimistically_conservative

Can it really be true? COmmon people getting involved? next thing you know, we'll be VOTING!


2 posted on 09/14/2004 9:54:08 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: optimistically_conservative

I love how the left is saying that it doesn't matter that the evidence is phoney, only that the charges haven't been "adequately answered".

As Rush says, paraphrasing them all: The truth of the accusation doesn't matter, only its severity.


3 posted on 09/14/2004 9:55:29 AM PDT by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: optimistically_conservative

> ... the old days of news-media control of the
> information flow are rapidly fading.

And the present citizen attitude is "trust no one,
and look into it yourself".

There's clearly an opportunity for an unbiased news
outlet, as the viewership numbers for Fox suggest.
It will be interesting to see what emerges.


4 posted on 09/14/2004 9:58:32 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: Old Sarge

This just helps prove my contention that the internet, and all of the people who are in and out of it all the time, are the virtual manifestation of the collective unconscious.

DRather and those like him still have the arrogance to believe that they operate like kings of old, with some divine right. Their power comes from the people, their audience, and the people are taking the power back.


5 posted on 09/14/2004 9:59:49 AM PDT by SlowBoat407
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To: optimistically_conservative

Bump!


6 posted on 09/14/2004 10:04:58 AM PDT by talleyman (Dan Rather is the love child of Josef Stalin & Matta Hari and James Carville is a space alien - E.T.)
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To: optimistically_conservative
I didn't see that Daily Kos was offering up much proof that the memos are legitimate, other than saying "the memos are legitimate". That, and discussing how many of the old-timers there had to take typing on manual typewriters (yawn, zzzz). No one takes typing anymore. Now it's keyboarding, and everybody and their brother recognizes how easily those memos were faked.
7 posted on 09/14/2004 10:07:44 AM PDT by unsycophant
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To: optimistically_conservative
Or go directly to weblogs like Power Line or Free Republic

Is FreeRepublic actually a "weblog"?

Isn't the term weblog meant to denote a web site whose content written by a single individual?

The strength of FreeRepublic is the collective expertise of thousands of it's members.

8 posted on 09/14/2004 10:08:32 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius
To me, Free Republic has always been an ONLINE FORUM, and (when we have organized more than just talk) a GRASSROOTS ACTIVIST GROUP, rather than a mere "weblog." I think we should force the distinction.
9 posted on 09/14/2004 10:12:48 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (ANY U.S. Soldier's Blood Worth Tiptoeing ANYMORE Around Middle Eastern "Holy" Cities or Mosques???)
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To: samtheman

We must have an investigation! It's not the lack of evidence, it's the SERIOUSNESS of the CHARGE!~~~~~~~~Former Dem Speaker of the House What's His Name from Washington.......Yeah, Foley, .........on GHWB trip to Paris on a SR-22 to secretly negotiate with the Iranians......


10 posted on 09/14/2004 10:13:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you shoot from the hip enough times, eventually you'll shoot yourself in the a$$......)
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To: Boundless
There's clearly an opportunity for an unbiased news outlet, as the viewership numbers for Fox suggest.

I'd argue that transparency trumps bias.

I don't mind your bias as much as hiding your sources and asserting your opinion based on anonymous quotes.

It is about trust, but I can trust people I disagree with.

11 posted on 09/14/2004 10:17:11 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative (The soldier, be he friend or foe, is charged with the protection of the weak and the unarmed.)
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To: optimistically_conservative

Bye Bye
Mr. CBS-MSM Lie


12 posted on 09/14/2004 10:17:44 AM PDT by joesnuffy ( "Two Heads Are Better Than One"...."Unless They're On The Same Person" -Andy Sipowicz)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You must have read the home page: Conservative News Forum

;-)


13 posted on 09/14/2004 10:21:33 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative (The soldier, be he friend or foe, is charged with the protection of the weak and the unarmed.)
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To: Red Badger
It's not the lack of evidence, it's the SERIOUSNESS of the CHARGE!
Yeah. There you go. Does anyone need any further proof that leftism kills brain-cells.

Here is your brain.

Here is your brain on leftism.

14 posted on 09/14/2004 10:23:50 AM PDT by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: joesnuffy

Memos...
Form the basis of my lies
Badly forged and copied memos
Done in M-S Word


(Copying Barbara Streisand)


15 posted on 09/14/2004 10:34:59 AM PDT by SlowBoat407
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To: SlowBoat407

Can it be the Guard had Selectrics then?
Or had time to format every line?
If we had the chance to make a subscript then,
Tell me, would we....
Could we?


16 posted on 09/14/2004 10:40:07 AM PDT by SlowBoat407
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To: samtheman

And then there will be the defense like after the Tawanna Brawley hoax was exposed, "what matters is that it could have happened."


17 posted on 09/14/2004 10:42:32 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: optimistically_conservative

>> There's clearly an opportunity for an unbiased news outlet ...

> I'd argue that transparency trumps bias.

Yup. Actually, I didn't mean to say "unbiased", as that
is probably impossible. For example, the necessary work
of deciding what is news and what is noise unavoidably
involves bias.

As long as a news outlet states their bias (as FR does),
I don't have a problem with that.

Even such a simple thing as reporting Wall Street results
involves bias. Why is the narrow DJIA the leading measure
of the market? Because someone at the WSJ thought so on
some day in the distant past.


18 posted on 09/14/2004 10:53:05 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: Boundless

True, some level of bias is always going to creep in. I remember when I was at the AP in New York, though, hearing General Desk editors cackling with glee when a story came across that made President Reagan look bad. The seemed just a little more eager to get those stories on the wire than the ones that made him look good.


19 posted on 09/14/2004 11:19:05 AM PDT by SlowBoat407
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To: dfwgator
"what matters is that it could have happened."
Absolutely. They are lunatics. That's the way they think.
20 posted on 09/14/2004 11:43:15 AM PDT by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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