Posted on 09/13/2004 9:35:32 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
Great find:
This from the blog site: Protein Wisdom found on a Yahoo search re OETR:
"OETR doesnt stand for Officer Efficiency Training Report. The OETR is not a report at all, rather its the place where educational transcripts are kept. Its just an office at the AFIT (Air Force Institute of Technology). The AFIT has been granting degrees since 1956, and was in operation for quite a long time even before that, according to their brochure [here (my emphasis)].
AFI 36-2305, which references the OETR, (see Attachment 1, Abbreviations and Acronyms") is online at [here; you can find the reference in table 1, rule 1, column C (on page 4). And while there is no online contact information for OERT, that appears to be because they are a subset of the registrars office].
To put it simply: any reference to Bushs OETR is absurd in the extreme, because its not an acronym for a report. The supposition that an officer would get the name of the OER, a widely used and important report, wrong is absurd as well."
The kerry campaign crossed over a long time ago.
Holy Shit. He just resigned? Have a look.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2003/09/16/kerrys_communications_director_resigns/
bttt
Marty Heldt has been #1 on my hit parade of liars and scammers re this latest scam by the MSM to discredit GW!
Some detective I am. Article is dated in 2003. Sorry.
Thanks for that very interesting link.
Brilliant detective work!
Excellent find: "The network also includes Ellsberg's Truth Telling Project and McGovern's group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity."
Makes one wonder if these networks/organizations are being funded by one of Ma Ma T Rex's non profits or George $ora$$.
Yep.
Also, I recall one memo uses the acronym NLT, but spells it out first, so it reads "not later than (NLT)"
Why would you use an acronym if you are going to use the longhand version as well?
Doesn't make sense or is some peculiarlity of the military?
It looks to me as if the forger looked up the acronym in some lexicon and pasted it along with it's explanation, by mistake.
Please post that as a thread by itself.
Then we can link a lot of the garbage that has been going on since he started this short career with Kerry.
One would bet that Lehane's paw prints are all over one of these lies which have emerged since Labor Day.
What are you talking about??
That article is dated 9/16/2003
You posted, "It looks to me as if the forger looked up the acronym in some lexicon and pasted it along with it's explanation, by mistake."
That is exactly what happened. Here is my reply #63 above:
"This from the blog site: Protein Wisdom found on a Yahoo search re OETR:
"OETR doesnt stand for Officer Efficiency Training Report. The OETR is not a report at all, rather its the place where educational transcripts are kept. Its just an office at the AFIT (Air Force Institute of Technology). The AFIT has been granting degrees since 1956, and was in operation for quite a long time even before that, according to their brochure [here (my emphasis)]."
"AFI 36-2305, which references the OETR, (see Attachment 1, Abbreviations and Acronyms") is online at [here; you can find the reference in table 1, rule 1, column C (on page 4). And while there is no online contact information for OERT, that appears to be because they are a subset of the registrars office].
"To put it simply: any reference to Bushs OETR is absurd in the extreme, because its not an acronym for a report. The supposition that an officer would get the name of the OER, a widely used and important report, wrong is absurd as well."
61 posted on 09/13/2004 11:09:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
who is Marty Heldt ???
You might also want to look at this
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-09-09bushdocs.pdf
This is a link to the fake bush docs with the two new one... look at the first one and you will see it notes two offices Bush & Bath ... now look and the following on page ten
http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/11-4_2004_Personnel_File.pdf
It has it list the flight status suspension for Bush on Aug 1
and just under is a second officer flight status suspension on Sept 1 that second officer name is redacted (blackout)
however on the Kerry site there is the same paper but without the name being redacted (blackout)
and that name is Bath
question is how did the Kerry camp get an un redacted copy and did the forger uses it to come up with the name Bath and I would be curious to see if this Bath name is someone that Killian would have is a memo ant the same time as Bush
Finally just Fyi look at page ten of the following to get and idea of the Al. posting
http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/6-Reassignments_Spilt_Training.pdf
Scroll down a ways for this one:
Selectric Composer Theory Decomposing
Great!
Records draw interest
Marty Heldt, a private researcher who has spent several years examining Bush's military records, said the human reliability rules may answer the mystery of why Bush abruptly stopped flying.
It seems entirely plausible to me, particularly given what we know about that period of his life, Heldt said. We know that he was a drinker, going out a lot, Heldt said. That is something that could get him suspended under the human reliability program.
Heldt, an Iowa farmer, is part of a network of amateur researchers who have used the federal Freedom of Information Act to examine Bush's military records. Researchers use the Internet to share information.
Heldt said he tends to vote Democratic, but is not a party activist. Some of his interest in Bush goes back to the 2000 presidential campaign when the issue of Bush's military service first received national attention, he said.
Retired Lt. Col. Bill L. Burkett, a strategic planner at Texas Guard headquarters in Austin when Bush was the governor of Texas, also confirmed that the HRP regulations applied to the Texas Air National Guard at the time Bush served.
In a New York Times interview and in Moore's new book, Burkett claims he saw some of Bush's military records being destroyed in the mid-1990s.
Bush's file was scrubbed for embarrassing information, Burkett alleges, at the direction of Daniel James III. James headed the Texas National Guard, and Burkett was his chief military adviser when Bush was governor of Texas.
Thanks
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