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Expert Cited by CBS Says He Didn't Authenticate Papers (On DRUDGE)
Washington Post ^ | 9/14/2004 | Michael Dobbs and Howard Kurtz

Posted on 09/13/2004 7:39:52 PM PDT by jhouston

Edited on 09/13/2004 8:04:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The lead expert retained by CBS News to examine disputed memos from President Bush's former squadron commander in the National Guard said yesterday that he examined only the late officer's signature and made no attempt to authenticate the documents themselves.


(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; electionrather; killian; marcelmatley; napalminthemorning; rather; rathergate; seebsnews
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To: jhouston

41 posted on 09/13/2004 7:54:17 PM PDT by etradervic (Kerry is a Left-Wing Dinosaur)
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To: Mo1

Oh, yes he did!


42 posted on 09/13/2004 7:54:51 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: jhouston

43 posted on 09/13/2004 7:55:33 PM PDT by Alouette (Dan Rather lied. CBS died.)
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To: palmer
They've gone from "we're sure" to "we had experts looking at them" to the above. Not exactly sticking to their guns, but they can always find a few more "experts".

They are running out of experts. Unless the 'expert' is named Lanny Davis, the Dems are going have a hard time finding one that will lie through his teeth. Every expert so far has concluded they are fake.

44 posted on 09/13/2004 7:56:25 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: plushaye

This is a new angle under 'factual problems':

Factual problems. A CBS document purportedly from Killian ordering Bush to report for his annual physical, dated May 4, 1972, gives Bush's address as "5000 Longmont #8, Houston." This address was used for many years by Bush's father, George H.W. Bush. National Guard documents suggest that the younger Bush stopped using that address in 1970 when he moved into an apartment, and did not use it again until late 1973 or 1974, when he moved to Cambridge, Mass., to attend Harvard Business School.


45 posted on 09/13/2004 7:56:47 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: Trippin
Dear God, when will Dan Rather just admit his monumental mistake and get it over with! By dragging this out, he's just becoming the poster boy for dumb journalism

Because it's a criminal offense to forge MILITARY documents and it's a criminal offense to forge the signature of a Military Officer ... and to do so with the goal of changing a Federal Election

I don't know who did it .. But that person is in a World of Trouble

46 posted on 09/13/2004 7:57:30 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: jhouston

EVERYDAY Rather keeps this story alive drowns what Kerry's has to say and cements the electorate even more.

Thank you for stonewalling! You are eliminating ANY chance your boy has to get elected!

On election night, the analysis by the talking heads will be how the MSM, starting with Rather, assisted Bush in getting re-elected.

And it will be HARD not to gloat!!!


47 posted on 09/13/2004 7:57:31 PM PDT by BP2
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To: jhouston; Torie

Wow....

Perfect article - too bad they dumped it to A8.

The CBS expert had to have been scared - if he was considered as being on record authenticating an obvious forgery, he'd find it difficult to find any future work as an expert.


48 posted on 09/13/2004 7:57:36 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: etradervic
Axis of Evil

Actually that diagram looks like the home plate of evil....

49 posted on 09/13/2004 7:57:41 PM PDT by freebilly (Elect the Vietnam Vet in '04-- Vote Jane Fonda....)
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To: jhouston

If the Washington Post prints it, even if it's four days late, does that mean that it finally exists? Or do we need the paper of record, The New York Times, to fess up too?

Safire doesn't count.


50 posted on 09/13/2004 7:57:48 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mo1
In the interview on Friday .. didn't he say something about putting his reputation on the line??

Something like that but I'd rather he take my bet of $20 that they are fakes, now that would be tangible..His reputation right now isn't worth squat.

Good article, hit most of the highpoints, now we need follow up on the source to really nail Rather..obviously the source is not unimpeachable...nor a good forger either..

Anyone have CBS policy memos on vetting articles?

51 posted on 09/13/2004 7:58:15 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Howlin

Thanks .. I wasn't sure if I heard him right


52 posted on 09/13/2004 7:58:17 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: jhouston
Dobbs and Kurtz put Rather over the side. And tonight, Dan Rather knows he's a walking dead man.

I'll have to review my agnosticism. There may just be a God, and a just God at that, after all.

53 posted on 09/13/2004 7:58:20 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: All

Okay, where is everyone who was demanding that GWB denounce the documents as forgeries.

Strategery! He let the MSM do the work for him. Now he can use this the next time the Rats try to smear him.


54 posted on 09/13/2004 7:59:05 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: plushaye

Stylistic problems which Freepers pointed out already.

"Stylistic differences. To outsiders, how an officer wrote his name and rank or referred to his military unit may seem arcane and unimportant. Within the military, however, such details are regulated by rules and tradition, and can be of great significance. The CBS memos contain several stylistic examples at odds with standard Guard procedures, as reflected in authenticated documents.

In memos previously released by the Pentagon or the White House, Killian signed his rank "Lt Col" or "Lt Colonel, TexANG," in a single line after his name without periods. In the CBS memos, the "Lt Colonel" is on the next line, sometimes with a period but without the customary reference to TexANG, for Texas Air National Guard.

An ex-Guard commander, retired Col. Bobby W. Hodges, who CBS originally cited as a key source in authenticating its documents, pointed to discrepancies in military abbreviations as evidence that the CBS memos are forgeries. The Guard, he said, never used the abbreviation "grp" for "group" or "OETR" for an officer evaluation review, as in the CBS documents. The correct terminology, he said, is "gp" and "OER." "


55 posted on 09/13/2004 7:59:14 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: jhouston
TIMBER!!!!!


56 posted on 09/13/2004 7:59:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: My back yard

CBS had a Word-wrote malfunction.


57 posted on 09/13/2004 7:59:28 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (FReepers in Pajamas)
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To: jhouston
Dan shoulda gone here first:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41816&item=3839925186&rd=1

58 posted on 09/13/2004 8:00:13 PM PDT by Freedom_Isn't_Free (in fact, it isn't even cheap)
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To: Always Right

I agree. Stick to your guns Dan. Keep lying, no matter what, keep lying. At this rate he will do for us what no conservative could ever do. Discredit 60 Minutes, the supposed "gold" standard of investigative journalism. Hang tough Dan. "Courage." I love this. Hang tough Dan.


59 posted on 09/13/2004 8:00:27 PM PDT by daviscupper
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To: freebilly

We have to knock a few nodes out of there to get it down to an axis ;)


60 posted on 09/13/2004 8:00:28 PM PDT by etradervic (Kerry is a Left-Wing Dinosaur)
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