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Dan Rather’s Blunder: The Day Old Media Died?
Washington Dispatch.com ^ | September 13, 2004 | Editorial by CK Rairden

Posted on 09/13/2004 3:24:34 PM PDT by KeyLargo

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To: KeyLargo

Anyone try to contact CBS lately. I tried to click on their "contact us" link, and it didn't work...


41 posted on 09/13/2004 5:20:13 PM PDT by pixmo
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To: KeyLargo

Old Dan lost me back in 92 election the way he badgered 41 during an interview. It was embarassing to watch.


42 posted on 09/13/2004 5:23:16 PM PDT by mel
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To: KeyLargo

What's great is the TANG stuff could never have damaged W even a little. It wasn't worth a tenth of a % in the polls.
There was no win side to it at all. At best it was a win/noting proposition and it should have been obvious to the Frenchlies before they they threw it out there. When you initiate a maneuver that has a best outcome of not losing you any ground and a worst outcome of losing a LOT of ground, why do it?????? Are they so utterly devoid of material to use? issues to raise? He had done better to stand with his fist in the air shouting,"Workers of Amerika, Unite!"


43 posted on 09/13/2004 5:27:35 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: KeyLargo
5-minute news cycle."

There's SOME truth to that. However, I put together a summary which hits most of the high points on this story. After reading it, I can't imagine anyone would believe the CBS memos to be anything but the cheapest, sloppiest sort of forgery.

However, besides all the blogs quoted, there, even Always Partisan AP is quoted, and not always by way of debunk (although it is a couple of times). USA Today is quoted, and so on. I don't know that old media is monolithically fading. I think the more openly partisan, such as the alphab nets, the wire services, and a couple of the leading papers like NY Times, Wash Post, LA Times, and now maybe Boston Globe, are going to be hurt, in coming years. But others could fill in.

Things change. And I think the form and shape of media is going to remain fairly constant. But a new role will develop, even a reliance by 'old' media upon them, for bloggers and web posters to act as fact checkers. It could even save something like AP, which seems to almost get stories wrong more often than not, these days. If pressed by essentially freelance investigative reporters, and those with personal knowledge not otherwise available, it could even become something of a partnership. The more influential 'bloggers' could start charging service fees to newspapers and networks, and especially AP. And it'll be interesting to see how such transpires.

44 posted on 09/13/2004 5:46:29 PM PDT by sevry
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To: M-cubed

"Has it been determined for certain that Bush signed the 180?...Im not clear on this one..."

I am not either. Heard that he did, but really would like to make sure. Also heard that some of his records were in various places, which took longer for them to be released. Want to have proof to show the liberals I am dealing with! Does anyone know for sure? Thanks!


45 posted on 09/13/2004 5:59:57 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: BobS

Yeah! We used to go up to the old Fillmore in the late sixties, early seventies from San Jose. It's a miracle we survived that time. By '78 I was in Korea in the Army, much safer.


46 posted on 09/13/2004 6:00:05 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: BobS
"Anyone up changing the words to "The Day the Music Died"?"
I prefer 'When the Music's Over' by the DOORS. It fits the early '70s.
Dan Blather should be singing: "This is the end, my only friend, the end."
47 posted on 09/13/2004 7:06:37 PM PDT by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: samtheman
""This is the end, my only friend, the end."

That's for Kerry after the election. I was saving it for Nov. 3rd. The Music must end first, you see:) Morrisson knew what he was doing with those songs. He referenced 'The End' in 'When the Music's Over', in the DOORS LIVE version.

Save it for the day after, when liberal zombies are wondering what happened. That's what JM would like:):):):-P

48 posted on 09/13/2004 7:32:22 PM PDT by BobS
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To: mdittmar

Is this a request?


49 posted on 09/13/2004 8:10:15 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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To: Republican Red
Don't forget the all important: Wear pajamas!

Sorry, I do all my home computing in my boxers, or shorts worn "commando" style. (I'm not big on A/C)

Unless of course if it's winter in the Northeast, in which case it's longjohns (gotta get me one of those L.L.Bean "union suit" full length longjohns).

50 posted on 09/13/2004 8:25:37 PM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: camboianchristmas

Anyone up changing the words to "The Day the Music Died"?

Actually, I have another song idea. And it deals with Kerry's obsession with his (remarkable) service in "Vetnohm". Perhaps use the song with the lyrics, "...I'm still in Saigon, I'm still in Saigon..." I can't remember all the other words, and I think the song was recorded in the early 80's. If appropriate it could make a funny music video, perhaps insert JFK's voice saying "vetnohm" over the word "...Saigon...". Maybe fashion it like the "This is my Land" comedy production?


51 posted on 09/13/2004 8:32:44 PM PDT by American Sovereignty Defender (I'm voting FOR Bush - before voting AGAINST Kerry)
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To: seekthetruth

I think it would be more likely that Bush signed a 180 while Kerry did a 180. Snort! Twinkie is laughing though her nose!


52 posted on 09/13/2004 8:41:55 PM PDT by Twinkie
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To: arthurus

---Are they so utterly devoid of material to use? issues to raise? He had done better to stand with his fist in the air shouting,"Workers of Amerika, Unite!"---

Terry McAwful is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he is the dirtiest. He's done more to ruin the Democratic Party than any Republican could have done.


53 posted on 09/13/2004 8:51:36 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Poohbah
A series question---

The Day Old Media Died

Murder or suicide?

54 posted on 09/13/2004 8:57:05 PM PDT by Peelod (Perversion is not festive)
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To: Buckhead

End of old media Ping


55 posted on 09/13/2004 9:54:59 PM PDT by jokar (On line data base http://www.trackingthethreat.com/db/index.htm)
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To: KeyLargo

Excellent post. Well done.


56 posted on 09/13/2004 10:11:35 PM PDT by MistrX
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To: doug from upland

Oh yeh.


57 posted on 09/13/2004 11:13:07 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free.)
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To: mdittmar
What in the heck am I doing staying up this late. Most songs I can do in about 30 minutes to an hour. This took almost five hours.

AMERICAN PIE -- THE DAY THE OLD MEDIA DIED

58 posted on 09/14/2004 1:07:27 AM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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To: BobS

Good analysis. You're a true rock'n'roll scholar.

As for the DOORS, I too am a fan. Despite JM's obvious drug-whacked creepitude, the guy could do music.


59 posted on 09/14/2004 3:41:47 AM PDT by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: American Sovereignty Defender

Still in Siagon....That song was done by Charlie Danials (sp?) I believe


60 posted on 09/14/2004 4:02:48 AM PDT by M-cubed
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