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From Biased to Partisan: The mainstream media moves left.
National Review Online ^ | 9/13/04 | Stanley Kurtz

Posted on 09/13/2004 8:36:02 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana

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To: hispanarepublicana

It took a lawsuit and a year before they admitted the drug memo forgery in 1997.


41 posted on 09/13/2004 9:23:30 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: hispanarepublicana
Why were we so wrong? Why did Dan Rather and CBS News, against all expectations, impeach their own credibility to defend the authenticity of memos that are almost certainly forgeries? The obvious answer is that they did it to save the faltering Kerry campaign from a final and decisive blow.

CBS is a clear and partisan arm of the Democrat National Committee, and should be subject to the broadcast restrictions of the Campaign Finance Reform act.

42 posted on 09/13/2004 9:23:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: LS

Yeah, a whole bunch of National Enquirers...isn't the media already competetive? Unless you witness something yourself...there's really no way of knowing the truth, so nowadays, people just migrate to the media that tells them what they want to hear, or supports there views. Everyone ends up being more and more partisan.

Thank God for the information age....


43 posted on 09/13/2004 9:24:18 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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To: stuartcr
Isn't the conservative media biased and partisan in their own way also?

The difference is that the so-called "conservative media" -- talk radio, this website, certain bloggers -- is upfront about where it's coming from. We are openly conservative and offer opinion accordingly.

To the contrary, the MSM contends that its reporting is "objective" and "neutral", not informed by an "opinion", one way or the other. As such, they are being dishonest.

44 posted on 09/13/2004 9:26:06 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: KC_Conspirator
What did Kerry know and when did he know it? What did Dan know and when did he know it?

OK now... where getting somewhere where we are finding common ground ... what im saying is... what are we talking about Bush in a negaitve light because of CBS and crappy ass documents! the question needs to be turned! like you suggest.What did Kerry know and when did he know it? What did Dan know and when did he know it?

45 posted on 09/13/2004 9:27:03 AM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: Lexington Green
Edward R. Murrow is still dead.

Edward R. Murrow is alive and well. And working at Fox News. < |:)~

46 posted on 09/13/2004 9:28:56 AM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: okie01

"objective" and "neutral"...does that equal "fair" and "balanced"...?


47 posted on 09/13/2004 9:31:23 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Should read the "Mainstream Media Moves FURTHER Left"


48 posted on 09/13/2004 9:33:02 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

bump for later


49 posted on 09/13/2004 9:34:58 AM PDT by tdadams (Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms... sounds like an invitation to my cousin's wedding.)
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To: hispanarepublicana
Why were we so wrong?

To Stanley Kurtz:

Because you were slow to see and finally acknowledge what the rest of us have observed for years.

I appreciate better late than never, but now grab a clue and proceed to fight this situation.

I, for one, and I'm sure most Freepers, certainly never entertained the notion that "CBS would admit they were forgeries". I knew Rather would dig in. Why? Because to me it is clear he and his staff had a hand in concocting the scheme.

It's nice to be proven right (regarding the non-admission and the standing by the lie), but frustrating when others aligned philosophically would have dismissed this and murmured how now clearly CBS will admit they were duped. Remember Hewitt bragging how they got Clinton elected by helping him via Sixty Minutes. This is not new, just more flagrant; more brazen.

50 posted on 09/13/2004 9:36:12 AM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: Cboldt
I am a huge advocate of open partisanship.

It's the "open" part that's missing. That's you point, isn't it?

51 posted on 09/13/2004 9:38:25 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: stuartcr
That's absolutely untrue: in early America, people easily figured out the truth.

The truth will usually win out over lies, especially if it is not actively suppressed.

52 posted on 09/13/2004 9:38:39 AM PDT by LS
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To: okie01

True, but the article's point is that people are rapidly catching on.


53 posted on 09/13/2004 9:39:08 AM PDT by LS
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To: Bahbah
But everyone should have a big problem with faking documents and "slanting" what are ostensibly news stories

Why? If everyone knows a particular outlet's position, then whatever they report can be viewed/read with that in mind. It already happens with the NYT, LAT, WP, etc - try and use those references with a conservative, and the basis is immediately dismissed.

The key is open and clear partisianship - none of this hiding behind psuedo-objectivity. Dicken's has a great vignette in the Pickwick Papers ie the Buffs vs. the Blues, complete with brawling crowds, drinks for votes, partisan papers spewing vitriolic accusations, etc.

54 posted on 09/13/2004 9:39:27 AM PDT by lemura
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
It's the "open" part that's missing. That's you point, isn't it?

Yes, it is. Because what is going on now is a bunch of deception, trotted out and defended as if they are "objective reality." I'd rather have all sides say something like "I'm not going to argue for the 'other side,' I'm going to give you only the information that I want you to have." That's is what is in fact going on now, and maybe 15 - 25% of the public is conscious of it.

55 posted on 09/13/2004 9:41:22 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: LS

How do you know people easily figured out the truth?


56 posted on 09/13/2004 9:42:28 AM PDT by stuartcr (Neither - Nor in '04....Who ya gonna hate in '08)
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To: astounded
CBS will not identify the forgers, because CBS collaborated with the DNC to do this. This is a clear attempt to unseat a US President in wartime through collusion.

That's the way I'm seeing it, too.

57 posted on 09/13/2004 9:43:21 AM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: stuartcr
Isn't the conservative media biased and partisan in their own way also?

Please present an example of where they have reported false or wrong information and failed to correct it.

58 posted on 09/13/2004 9:45:06 AM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: lemura

"Dickens has a great vignette in the Pickwick Papers."

Do I detect another Dickens fan, or just the Pickwick Papers? One of my favorites is the case of Jarndyce v. Jarndyce from "Bleak House."


59 posted on 09/13/2004 9:45:11 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Cboldt
Because what is going on now is a bunch of deception, trotted out and defended as if they are "objective reality." I'd rather have all sides say something like "I'm not going to argue for the 'other side,' I'm going to give you only the information that I want you to have." That's is what is in fact going on now, and maybe 15 - 25% of the public is conscious of it.

Good point.

60 posted on 09/13/2004 9:47:13 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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