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More Evidence Killian Memo's Were NOT Typed on IBM Selectric Composor
The Gantelope ^

Posted on 09/13/2004 1:03:57 AM PDT by The Bandit

To put a wooden stake in the heart of the vampire that is the IBM Selectric Composer typewriter theory, we've put-together a few graphics to illustrate one of the many reasons why this particular unit could not have produced any of the suspect CBS memos.

On an IBM Selectric Composer typewriter, all characters - regardless of font or point size - have fixed "unit values" assigned to them. This means that, while the actual physical space taken-up by a character will change with font and point size, the relationships between characters within that given font and point size are always the same.

The three examples we have chosen are:

Memo Details

 

If this memo had been typed on an IBM Selectric Composer, "have" and "time" would be the same length (21 units), "File" and "he's" would likewise match each other (18 units), and "drill" and "that" would pair-off as well (19 units). As you can see, they do not.

This is one of the many reasons why this particular typewriter is not a valid explanation as a source for these documents.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; composor; dan; documents; fake; fonts; fraudulent; ibm; killian; memos; rather; selectric; tang
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1 posted on 09/13/2004 1:03:58 AM PDT by The Bandit
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To: The Bandit

BUMP


2 posted on 09/13/2004 1:05:08 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: The Bandit

Nice


3 posted on 09/13/2004 1:05:45 AM PDT by Crazieman (Hanoi John Effin Kerry. War Criminal. Traitor. Democrat.)
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To: The Bandit

Bummer for Dan.


5 posted on 09/13/2004 2:13:05 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: The Bandit

Do we know for sure, or not, if the Killian
memos were kerned?


6 posted on 09/13/2004 3:14:33 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: greasepaint
Check this out http://www.flounder.com/bush.htm

Apparently the default for MS Word that created the memos DOES NOT kern by default. But it does do "psuedo kerning", which is as distiquishable from real kerning. And no, the equipment in 1972 discussed elsewhere doesn't do psuedo kerning either.

The memos are fake. No question.

7 posted on 09/13/2004 6:40:55 AM PDT by narby (CBS - The new Democrat 527)
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To: greasepaint
Go here for "kerning" information.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1214078/posts

8 posted on 09/13/2004 6:44:43 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@CBS = Deep Doo Doo.com)
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To: narby

great minds......


9 posted on 09/13/2004 6:45:30 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@CBS = Deep Doo Doo.com)
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To: greasepaint

"Do we know for sure, or not, if the Killian memos were kerned?"

Apparently, text that appears kerned to the reader, but which closer inspection would reveal as un-kerned, was a design objective of TrueType. Actual kerning took too much processor overhead in 1989.

The spacing is controlled by a patented process. Amazing that they got a patent for software font spacing that existed in 1972-era typewriters, isn't it?


10 posted on 09/13/2004 8:33:14 AM PDT by cpurick
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To: cpurick
Amazing that they got a patent for software font spacing that existed in 1972-era typewriters, isn't it?

Actually, TrueType involves the possibility of "negative spacing" of a letter (bringing it backwards) if the letter before it permitted. 1972 era typewriters could not do this, because they didn't know the preceding letter.

11 posted on 09/13/2004 8:36:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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"Actually, TrueType involves the possibility of "negative spacing" of a letter (bringing it backwards) if the letter before it permitted."

Not really. TrueType implies that the negative value of one letter is always applied to the placement of the next letter -- unless kerning (which considers specific combinations) is turned on and dictates otherwise. Because no consideration is given to what particular characters are being paired, TrueType can't move the following letter into the space of the other.

In other words, the only overlap is within the bounds of the serifs -- which coincidentally results in desirable ligatures for some combinations. The flounder article has been enhanced, and now covers this in greater detail.


12 posted on 09/13/2004 9:08:00 AM PDT by cpurick
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To: narby
the default for MS Word that created the memos DOES NOT kern by default. But it does do "psuedo kerning", which is as distiquishable from real kerning.

Furthermore, "pseudo kerning" (used by TrueType) is a PATENTED PROCESS which was not invented until the 1980's.

13 posted on 09/13/2004 9:11:01 AM PDT by Alouette (Dan Rather lied. CBS died.)
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To: cpurick

Thanks for the detailed correction. And the nature of True Type, as you described it, is different from proportional spacing as practiced on typewriters, e.g., IBM Executive.


14 posted on 09/13/2004 9:12:26 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: The Bandit; All

How dare you?!

How dare you try to insert fact and truth into the validity of these documents?!

You pajama-clad knave!



15 posted on 09/13/2004 9:13:23 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

You beat me to it.


16 posted on 09/13/2004 9:14:44 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: The Bandit

BTTT


17 posted on 09/13/2004 9:16:07 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: greasepaint
The CBS documents were not kerned. They have a letter spacing unique to TrueType, a computer technology developed in 1981.

flounder.com

unfortunately this page is unavailable due to escessive demand. :)

The bottom line is that TrueType default is more sophisticated than plain proportional spacing, but less sophisticated than kerning. Here's an example of kerning, sorry about the blank space:

The top line is the MS Word Default, which is what is used in the CBS documents. The bottom line is MS Word with kerning turned on.

The CBS documents could not have been typed or printed prior to 1982, because the TrueType spacing is unique and propriatary.

18 posted on 09/13/2004 9:27:23 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: The Bandit

The latest spin from CBS is that the memos aren't the originals, that they were transcribed on a word processor to make them more legible for the tv, that CBS has never seen the originals and that they will not be getting them from their source.


19 posted on 09/13/2004 10:05:16 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
The latest spin from CBS is that the memos aren't the originals, that they were transcribed on a word processor to make them more legible for the tv, that CBS has never seen the originals and that they will not be getting them from their source.

CBS isn't that FOOLISH or STUPIED (are they?)

20 posted on 09/13/2004 12:47:30 PM PDT by The Bandit
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