Posted on 09/12/2004 11:47:15 PM PDT by Cableguy
First off, before I start getting a lot of the wrong kind of mail: I am not a fan of George Bush. But I am even less a fan of attempts to commit fraud, and particularly by a complete and utter failure of those we entrust to ensure that if the news is at least accurate. I know it is asking far too much to expect the news to be unbiased. But the people involved should not actually lie to us, or promulgate lies created by hoaxers, through their own incompetence.
There has been a lot of activity on the Internet recently concerning the forged CBS documents. I do not even dignify this statement with the traditional weasel-word alleged, because it takes approximately 30 seconds for anyone who is knowledgeable in the history of electronic document production to recognize this whole collection is certainly a forgery, and approximately five minutes to prove to anyone technically competent that the documents are a forgery. I was able to replicate two of the documents within a few minutes. At time I a writing this, CBS is stonewalling. They were hoaxed, pure and simple. CBS failed to exercise anything even approximately like due diligence. I am not sure what sort of "expert" they called in to authenticate the document, but anything I say about his qualifications to judge digital typography is likely to be considered libelous (no matter how true they are) and I would not say them in print in a public forum.
(Excerpt) Read more at flounder.com ...
This is the best analysis of the memos from a typographical perspective that I have read.
Indisputable Proof the CBS/Rather Memos are Forgeries!
FlounderCraft Ltd. ^ | JOSEPH M. NEWCOMER, PH.D.
Posted on 09/12/2004 11:37:49 PM PDT by AKSurprise
"I am one of the pioneers of electronic typesetting. I was doing work with computer typesetting technology in 1972 (it actually started in late 1969), and I personally created one of the earliest typesetting programs for what later became laser printers, personally created computer fonts, and helped create programs that created computer fonts."
"I was a certified Adobe PostScript developer"
" I have written about Microsoft Windows font technology in a book I co-authored, and taught courses in it. I therefore assert that I am a qualified expert in computer typography."
"The probability that any technology in existence in 1972 would be capable of producing a document that is nearly pixel-compatible with Microsofts Times New Roman font and the formatting of Microsoft Word, and that such technology was in casual use at the Texas Air National Guard, is so vanishingly small as to be indistinguishable from zero."
"Based on the fact that I was able, in less than five minutes, to replicate one of the experiments: to type in the text of the 01-August-1972 memo into Microsoft Word and get a document so close to the authentic document and see virtually no errors, I can assert without any doubt (as have many others) that this document is a modern forgery. Any other position is indefensible. I was a bit annoyed that the experiment dealing with the 18-August-1973 memo was not compatible, until I changed the font to an 11.5-point font. Then it was a perfect match, including the superscript th."
"I do not believe a typesetting program or typesetting technology that worked in fractional point sizes could have existed in 1972 or 1973."
(Excerpt) Read more at flounder.com ...
This guy deserves to be on TV!
Does Fox news know about him and his analysis?
What seems to be lost in this document shuffle is intent and motive, that being to manipulate domestic/foreign perception in order to preemptively steal the election...not to mention the useful smoke-screen to divert attention from Kerry's treasonous behavior upon his return.
So let me get this straight, you think this guy has more credibility than the old typewriter repairman Time Magazine dug up? ;-)
Cinci and Fedora, you're going to like this... (a.k.a. never mess with a thinking patriot...)
You are so busted.
This guy is devestating. His CV to establish his bonafides as an expert is unmatched (certainly in comparison to some poor librarian from Frisco).
This is a devastating analysis. Stick a fork in 'em! See BS is done.
---What seems to be lost in this document shuffle is intent and motive, that being to manipulate domestic/foreign perception in order to preemptively steal the election...---
The question is who did them. This is criminal activity, not just a news story gone bad. Rather either made these documents himself or is covering for the forger or one of the forger's accomplices. Is this serious? Well, let me see, trying by fraudulent means to influence a federal election for the highest office in the land.
Terry McAullife posted a piece extolling the memos on the DNC website, the same night as the 60 Minute program. The next morning when the word fake started to be used he suggested Carl Rove was responsible and went on to say that the authenticity of the memos wasn't important. It seems to me that old Terry knew they were fakes all along.
There's a criminal conspiracy here.
I complained about a Detroit Free Press article that supported the CBS piece...here's the response I got...
Doesn't matter if the CBS story was bogus. There is ample evidence to support the fact that bush skipped out on part of his National Guard service. It's been documented for years. I think the president ows an apology to the families of Guard troops who didn't have politically-connected fathers and who were sent to a war started for illegitimate reasons.
Thank you for your comments,
Mike Thompson
Detroit Free Press
My response back...
> Doesn't matter if the CBS story was bogus.
yes, it never does to you people.
>There is ample evidence to support the fact that bush skipped out on part
of his National Guard service.
That's President Bush to you. Sure, that's why he got his honorable
discharge.
>It's been documented for years.
Yea, by who. Michael Moore? The Tooth Fairy? They are one and the same.
If you HAD it you would PRINT it. Which is of course why CBS showed those
fake documents. The guy had more than his 50 points a year...
>I think the president ows an apology to the families of Guard troops who
didn't have politically-connected fathers and who were sent to a war started
for illegitimate reasons.
Oh, and what illegitimate reasons are those....? The mass graves? The
multiple violations of the Gulf War ceasefires? The 17 UN resolutions?
That same brave UN that is letting the Sudan massacres continue...and
Rwanda, and Bosnia...and on and on. Where were you when Clinton sent in the
cruise missles...when he went into Bosnia without the UN or NATO. See, you
guys are so transparent. You think we don't notice those things. YOU ONLY
WANT CONSERVATIVES TO APOLOGIZE.
Actually, the Guard troops and the other military personnel are too busy
thanking him for his stalwart service defending our country, rather than
having to defend himself from the attacks of those who have hated the
military for years. You want to lay any odds on what percentage of those in
the military will be voting for President Bush? Of course you don't, you
KNOW they will overwhelmingly support him...that's why Al Gore tried to stop
their absentee ballots from being counted in the last election, something
the Free Press covered a lot. (it's called sarcasm)
You poor misguided wretches who write for the "press" don't fool anyone with
your self-righteous screeds. This latest example of blind hatred of our
president is why the Mainstream Media is quickly headed for the trashheap.
Don't you all realize that today's journalists are considered lower than
lawyers? Only child-molesters are regarded lower than today's press. It's
really kind of sad, but not at all surprising.
The president will be re-elected in a landslide, and the press, who defended
that moral idiot Clinton when he evaded service, AND DID NOTHING AFTER THE PREVIOUS TERRORIST ATTACKS, have no problem slandering a man who has taken heat from the likes of you in defending our homeland.
Your hypocrisy is stunning, but not surprising.
> Thank you for your comments,
>
> Mike Thompson
> Detroit Free Press
Four more years, big guy. I hope you choke on it. You are a dinosaur...
Cheers,
K
That, in and of itself, should be sufficient to label these documents as bogus.
That's crazy! You should take Mike Thompson's comments all the way up the food chain at the DFP. Ask their editors if it's the DFP's position that it "doesn't matter" if their stories are bogus.
---Doesn't matter if the CBS story was bogus. There is ample evidence to support the fact that bush skipped out on part of his National Guard service. It's been documented for years. I think the president ows an apology to the families of Guard troops who didn't have politically-connected fathers and who were sent to a war started for illegitimate reasons. ---
It'll matter when indictments are being handed out. These people are putrid, following Terry McAwful straight to hell in lock step.
We need to get this data and article to more people. I emailed it to Fox, Hannity and Hugh Hewitt. Please expand the list.
Ouch...that's gonna leave a mark. Your reply is a slash and burn worthy of Ann Coulter. Great job!
Thanks!
You can see the match a freeper did here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211995/posts?page=46#39
Thanks for the ping!
It was a good week for our side.
1. We exposed the radical gay activist, Tom Hays as the liar er writer of the boos that didn't happen, AP lie posing as news.
2. Communist BS NotNews gets exposed with another lie.
3. One of our own real former Seal Team guys exposed the liar yesterday in the latest AP story. This liar claimed to be a Seal Team member in Nam for 5 years. I have heard that our own real former Seal Team guy did this while wearing his official Seal Team Camo Jammies.
So which lunatic lying mediots well be exposed on Free Republic by our PJ wearing Freepers?
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