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LA TIMES: No Disputing It: Blogs Are Major Players (FreeRepublic.Com & Buckhead Mentioned!)
The LA Times ^ | Sept. 12, 2004 | Peter Wallsten

Posted on 09/12/2004 2:43:11 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

These days, CBS News anchor Dan Rather and his colleagues at the network's magazine program "60 Minutes II" are enduring an unusual wave of second-guessing by some of the public and fellow journalists.

For that, they can thank "Buckhead."

It was a late-night blog posting by this mystery Netizen that first questioned the validity of documents Rather cited Wednesday as proof that George W. Bush did not fulfill his National Guard duty more than 30 years ago.

Buckhead refuses to further identify himself, other than dropping hints that he is a male who lives on the East Coast — preferring to proclaim that the scramble to verify the contentions in his posting marks an extraordinary achievement for a medium that has operated more as an underground world of ideological venting than a source of legitimate news.

But Buckhead is vehement about one thing: He acted alone when he posted, to the conservative website FreeRepublic.com, what was widely believed to be the first allegation that the CBS report relied on documents that could have been forged.

"Absolutely, positively, on my own, sitting at my computer in my bedroom just before midnight — but not in my pajamas," he wrote in an e-mail exchange with The Times. "But once I posted the comment to Free Republic I was no longer working alone, and that is the real point of the story about the story about the story."

That story began Wednesday, 19 minutes after the "60 Minutes II" broadcast began, when another FreeRepublic poster, TankerKC, noted that the documents were "not in the style that we used when I came into the USAF…. Can we get a copy of those memos?"

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Free Republic; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; forgery; killian; mediawingofthednc; msm; rathergate
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To: Buckhead

Send your comments to Peter.Wallsten@latimes.com.

The article was a damn good read.


341 posted on 09/12/2004 1:06:49 PM PDT by OregonRancher (illigitimus non carborundum)
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To: shezza; dawn53
We, collectively, were easily more accurate than the "experts" the FRAUDcasters employed during the BASH* ... we had the JFK,jr pinned down as a classic "death spiral" long before the Old Media did, and Limbaugh picked up his monologue FROM the FR post that nailed that ... we KNEW in 2000 that the USSC had told the SCOFLAWs "game over" a half hour before their "court analysts" did (but that is because Coulter was sick in bed that day - she probably would have beat us then) ...

There are just so many of these instances now they are really too great to enumerate, and they occur nearly daily. If the Old Media were interested in the truth, rather than their agenda, the FR "virtual think tank" would have been mentioned a hundred times this year in a hundred stories.

One thing is certain, though, this method of news research is on the ascendancy, and theirs is not.
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342 posted on 09/12/2004 1:07:42 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: sweetliberty

Bump for later read (of thread)...I read what was posted of article...but will not register at LA Slimes, lol! : )


343 posted on 09/12/2004 1:07:52 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
Ah... that is one thing I was going to say, too...

For See BS and the other FRAUDcasters to believe that we don't have checks and balances here simply points out that they have never been part of the turmoil that goes on here --- the very tough arguments and the pseudotrolls and the major fights and even name calling. It may not be recognizable to them as accomplishing the vetting of news, but we typically do get it right in the end, and more quickly than they do.
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344 posted on 09/12/2004 1:11:06 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: nicmarlo
"but will not register at LA Slimes"

You don't have to. See post #8.

345 posted on 09/12/2004 1:11:16 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: snooker

The bigger the brain, the higher the intelligence...

We have a collective brain that surpasses anything!!!


346 posted on 09/12/2004 1:11:31 PM PDT by OregonRancher (illigitimus non carborundum)
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To: Polybius
... On the other hand, on any given topic, be it computer science, typing, aviation, any branch of the military services, medicine, law, engineering, you name it, FreeRepublic can come up with a dozen members who have been working in those fields for decades.

No human being in the world, especially a reporter, is ever going to have a greater breath of knowledge than the FreeRepublic collective.

Resistance is futile.

ROTFLMAO!!! So true! (you forgot a few very important fields: investing, politics, aging, parenting, religion, ... to name a few and often pertinent ones, that often reporters don't have any experience with.)
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347 posted on 09/12/2004 1:16:57 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: West Coast Conservative

Click the logo to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!


348 posted on 09/12/2004 1:18:31 PM PDT by petercooper (All I wanted to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: AFPhys

OOPS... forgot some don't know:

* BASH == Battle Against Saddumb Hussein
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349 posted on 09/12/2004 1:23:15 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: sweetliberty

Thanks, sweetliberty.....I hadn't known we were being called "a bastion of right-wing lunacy." Methinks that the "lunatics" were the ones who exposed the fanatical Ratherbiased liars.


350 posted on 09/12/2004 1:32:14 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

I rather enjoy the company in the asylum, don't you?


351 posted on 09/12/2004 1:34:06 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: sweetliberty

If I must choose between the Ratherbiased liars and the "lunatics," I'll pick the lunies, any day!!! : )


352 posted on 09/12/2004 1:37:13 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
Sometimes you feel like a nut.........sometimes you don't


353 posted on 09/12/2004 1:39:08 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: West Coast Conservative
A few comments:

Jim Jordan said:

"That's not to say the documents didn't deserve examination. But apparently the entire thing was cooked up by a couple of amateurs on Free Republic. The speed with which it moved was breathtaking."

Why is it breathtaking? Anybody who actually used a typewriter back in the day should have noticed right away, from looking at the documents, that they were not in Courier, and that they didn't look like anything composed in 1972. You don't need days to figure that out.

"The mainstream press is having to follow them," said Jeffrey Seglin, a professor at Emerson College in Boston. "The fear I have is: How do you know who's doing the Web logs?

"And what happens when this stuff gets into the mainstream, and it eventually turns out that the '60 Minutes' documents were perfectly legitimate, but because there's been so much reporting about what's being reported, it has already taken on a life of its own?"

Seglin misses the point. The MSM wouldn't have been writing these stories if there weren't real problems with the documents, as mentioned by document experts. The real story here is that it didn't even occur to anybody in the MSM to check out the veracity of the documents until freepers and bloggers noticed all the problems in the doc.

Besides, instead of worrying that our right-wing bias is a bad thing, the media should be worrying that their left-wing bias is not serving them well when it comes to finding the truth. Every MSM outlet ran huge stories about 60 Minutes' report, and not a single one even considered that the documents could be fake until the internet reports. Where's the MSM's skepticism when it comes to anti-Bush charges?

354 posted on 09/12/2004 1:39:38 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: kcvl

Thanks, bookmarked.


355 posted on 09/12/2004 1:44:48 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: leadpenny
Did anyone at the slimes get permission to print this in their 'for profit' publication?

Good point, worth pursuing.

Isn’t this fun!!!

356 posted on 09/12/2004 1:52:29 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: squarebarb

Where did those pjs come from? My wife wants some like that...


357 posted on 09/12/2004 1:53:10 PM PDT by no-s
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To: Howlin

History in the making, thanks – and congratulations!


358 posted on 09/12/2004 2:03:20 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Howlin

359 posted on 09/12/2004 2:35:56 PM PDT by Henry Krinkle
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To: West Coast Conservative
The Dog Trainer still warns its readers Free Republic.com LOL - is a website full of right-wing lunatics. We're just kooks, folks. That's what passes for mainstream media thinking of what's happening online. They so do not get it!
360 posted on 09/12/2004 2:38:35 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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