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www.PeterLance.com has evidence that TWA 800 was a terrorist attack
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Posted on 09/11/2004 6:22:08 PM PDT by kcvl

Rita Cosby of Fox News just interviewed Peter Lance and he says the evidence of TWA 800 being a terrorist attack is on his website.


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1 posted on 09/11/2004 6:22:09 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Wow, and imagine that: the Clinton administration covered it up.


2 posted on 09/11/2004 6:23:40 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: kcvl

Try hyperlinking it http://www.PeterLance.com


3 posted on 09/11/2004 6:24:23 PM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and the Armed Forces ... Arnold and Zell too!)
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To: kcvl

Just saw that. Everyone knows the official explanation is BS but this is the first time I have seen a possible explanation of who downed it.


4 posted on 09/11/2004 6:24:53 PM PDT by microgood
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To: kcvl

so far I can't see where the info is, it is all about his books...


5 posted on 09/11/2004 6:26:16 PM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: fuzzy122; kcvl

The Lance site is all but unuseable.

So what is supposed to be new news?

And by the way, the case for "not an accident" is a
lot stronger on AA587 than TWA800.


6 posted on 09/11/2004 6:29:08 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: kcvl

nah, the CFT just spontaneously exploded and all the eyewitnesses were wrong [/sarcasm] ... of course, we'll soon see posts about the 737 ... (Thai Airways was it?) ...


7 posted on 09/11/2004 6:29:24 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: kcvl

Which terrorist organization claimed responsibility?


8 posted on 09/11/2004 6:30:11 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: kcvl

I KNOW it was a terrorist attack because I SAW THE VIDEO ON TV of a missile jetting upwards and then an explosion.

This was shown ONCE (that I know of) and then removed from the air and never shown again. Several other people here saw it too.

It has become known as the 'cocktail party' video.


9 posted on 09/11/2004 6:30:14 PM PDT by Mr. K
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To: kcvl

early on there was a report of the missle lauched from the area where the navy had just finished drills. i thought that someone let off a round or made it look like it.


10 posted on 09/11/2004 6:32:04 PM PDT by Gibtx (everything you wanted to knonw about 527's)
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To: kcvl

His server must have gotten swamped. It errors out: 'Cannot find server'


lol


11 posted on 09/11/2004 6:32:13 PM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: kcvl

Even conservative radio talk show host Michael Medved, who is as skeptical of "conspiracy theories" as just about anyone, has long maintained that the evidence suggesting TWA Flight #800 was the victim of a terrorist attack is overwhelming.


12 posted on 09/11/2004 6:33:10 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: kcvl

You should also checkout http://www.jaynadavis.com/
if you want to know about the Oklahoma City bombing too!


13 posted on 09/11/2004 6:33:10 PM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and the Armed Forces ... Arnold and Zell too!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

And the Bush administration continues such cover-up?


14 posted on 09/11/2004 6:33:27 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: kcvl

Amazon has a book description reading:

"In Cover Up, Lance shows how the government chose again and again to sacrifice America's national security for personal motives and political convenience. In its first half, he unveils shattering new evidence that terror mastermind Ramzi Yousef ordered the bombing of TWA 800 from his prison cell in order to effect a mistrial in his own terror bombing case. Astonishingly, the FBI was alerted to Yousef's plans in advance by a prison informant who even passed along his detailed sketch of a bomb-trigger device -- a document seen here for the first time. And Lance reveals the shocking reason the Justice Department suddenly ruled the crash an accident despite overwhelming evidence of the bombing -- throwing away its best chance to penetrate the cell that was already planning 9/11.

And the outrage doesn't stop there. In Part II, Lance offers an unofficial "minority report" on the 9/11 Commission, critiquing it as the incomplete, highly politicized "Warren Commission of our time." He explores potential conflicts of interest among its members, from the staff director who wrote a book with Condoleezza Rice, to the former Clinton deputy attorney general who participated in a critical meeting that upended the TWA probe. He exposes the report's false contention that the 9/11 plan was conceived in 1996, when the FBI had knowledge that the plot was in motion as early as 1994. And, in a heart-stopping, minute-by-minute chronicle of the attacks, he asks dozens of unanswered questions about the defense failures of that day -- from why fighter jets weren't scrambled for almost an hour after the hijackings, to why the president and several of his top military advisers remained virtually incommunicado for more than half an hour after it was clear that America was under attack. " - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060543558/qid=1094952500/sr=8-1/ref=pd_cps_1/104-7522424-6987131?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

If that doesn't get you there, go to the home amazon page and search "coverup".

I have no knowledge or connections to the book. Just adding in info for curiosities sake of which at this time, I am not equipped to judge.



15 posted on 09/11/2004 6:33:53 PM PDT by roadrunner96
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To: Gibtx
early on there was a report of the missle lauched from the area where the navy had just finished drills. i thought that someone let off a round or made it look like it.

Actually the universal conspiracy theory was that the Navy accidentally shot it down, then all the kooks suddenly changed their tune the day after 9/11, realizing they'd sell more books saying it was a terrorist attack.

16 posted on 09/11/2004 6:35:05 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: kcvl

In her book, THE THIRD TERRORIST, Jayna Davis proves the ME connection in the OKC Bombing... and demonstrates conclusively that the FBI covered it up. J. Edgar lives on..............


17 posted on 09/11/2004 6:35:19 PM PDT by Lexington Green (It just ain't right to ask an American soldier to salute John Kerry.)
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To: kcvl

Montecito author's book links '96 crash to al-Qaeda
Writer accuses FBI of obstruction, cover-up
9/11/04

By SCOTT HADLY

NEWS-PRESS SENIOR WRITER


In his new book, Peter Lance claims not only that the 9/11 Commission's report fell short but that the FBI ignored a link between al-Qaeda and the 1996 crash of TWA Flight 800 off Long Island.

The Montecito author uses a series of internal FBI memos and other documentary evidence to make the allegation about the New York office of the agency. The flight blew apart at 13,000 feet and smashed into the ocean, killing 230 people.

It was a Faustian bargain, according to Mr. Lance, a willingness to bury information about the link to protect a massive federal case against dozens of New York mobsters.

"At the time they weren't thinking about al-Qaeda, they (primarily the New York office of the FBI) thought all this stuff would blow over," said Mr. Lance, whose new book "Cover Up: What the Government is Still Hiding About the War on Terror" came out earlier this week.

If true, it's the most troubling revelation in the book and lends credibility to the argument that had the FBI pursued the case the agency might have eventually stopped the terrorists behind the Sept. 11 attacks, he said.

The revelations also get to the core of Mr. Lance's thesis -- that the two-year investigation by the 9/11 Commission fell short because it depended on the work of the very individuals in the domestic and international intelligence agencies who had failed in their jobs. Fully half the 75 staffers working with the commission came from those agencies, said Mr. Lance.

Sitting for an interview in a State Street restaurant recently, Mr. Lance, an author and investigative reporter who exposed a litany of missteps and failures by the FBI leading up to the attacks in his bestseller "1000 Years for Revenge," describes his new work as a sort of "minority report" to the 9/11 Commission's investigation.

But it's clearly more than that.

"For the first time I'm offering an explanation for why these warnings and connections were missed," said Mr. Lance.

It wasn't blindness or ignorance, Mr. Lance said, but willful obstruction by top FBI and Justice Department officials, who were covering up their own failures.

"We're talking about the biggest mass murder in U.S. history, and they were allowed to cherry-pick information," he said.

Although he contacted the top officials he singled out in his book, none would agree to an interview or respond to written questions.

Back in the early and mid-1990s the focus of Justice Department officials and the FBI in New York was breaking the last big crime family in the city, according to Mr. Lance.

They couldn't afford to give any credibility to statements made by one of those mobsters, who had befriended the Islamic terrorist Ramzi Yousef while the two were in federal detention. Using the mobster as an informant would have destroyed their case against the mob.

In making the argument, Mr. Lance goes through a dizzying series of connections that paint a damning portrait of several FBI officials and top prosecutors in the the U.S. Attorney's Office in New York.

However convoluted the connection, Mr. Lance has produced evidence, including a diagram of an ingenious bomb and internal FBI memos days before the downing of the plane, that detail a plot. Despite this information being forwarded to the 9/11 Commission, there is no mention of the TWA 800 investigation in the commission final report.

The connection between that incident and Sept. 11 is clear and it comes down to one man, Ramzi Yousef, Mr. Lance said.

Dubbed the "Mozart of Terror" by Mr. Lance, the Pakistani national helped build the bombs used in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center and ultimately was convicted for his role in planning to bring down 11 planes in one day in 1995. Mr. Yousef is also the nephew of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, one of the plotters behind the Sept. 11 attacks.

Mr. Yousef's so-called Bojinka plot to down the 11 airliners depended on the use of a cunning bomb that used a cheap Casio watch wired to nitroglycerin to trigger an explosion mid-flight.

He actually built and tested it on a Philippine Airlines flight in 1994, placing the small bomb under his seat. Mr. Yousef got off during a connecting flight and the bomb detonated in midair, killing a Japanese tourist sitting in the seat. Though it blew a hole in the plane, the blast narrowly missed the center fuel tanks.

"He missed it by a few rows," Mr. Lance said.

Mr. Yousef didn't get a chance to try it again. In January of 1995, while mixing chemicals for another bomb, he triggered an explosion in his small Manila apartment. A co-conspirator was caught, but Mr. Yousef was able to flee to Pakistan, where he was later arrested.

While Mr. Yousef was awaiting trial for the Bojinka plan, TWA 800 blew apart and crashed into the Atlantic Ocean. Although investigators from the National Transportation Safety Board concluded that the center fuel wing exploded after leaking fuel vapors were somehow ignited by arcing wires, Mr. Lance presents compelling information that the plane was brought down as part of a plot by Mr. Yousef to get a mistrial.

A mobster housed next to Mr. Yousef began working as an FBI informant, according to Mr. Lance. While awaiting his own trial on racketeering charges, Greg Scarpa Jr. befriended Mr. Yousef and began transcribing and relaying messages between him and other suspected terrorists.

The notes, sent weeks and months before the downing of Flight 800, included plans to blow up a plane and detailed diagrams of the Casio watch bomb. One note dated more than a month before the crash was titled "How to smuggle explosives into an airplane" and included a list of six chemical compounds mixed to make the explosive.

Federal officials ultimately deemed the information a scam and a hoax, but Mr. Lance disagrees.

"Think about it," he said. "How's a guy like that know how to diagram a device like that? That (the Casio watch device) was Yousef's signature, his special thing. No one could have known about that, least of which a Mafia guy."


But what does this all have to do with Sept. 11? Mr. Lance says it shows that U.S. intelligence officials not only missed opportunities to capture and foil other terrorists, but also showed a willingness to bury information that would shine a light on those mistakes.

Mr. Yousef himself was captured only because of luck, Mr. Lance said. But his uncle Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who perfected the Sept. 11 plot, has yet to be captured, in part because of the same kind of mistakes and cover-ups, Mr. Lance said.

But none of this information was included in the 9/11 Commission's final report, he said.

"The American people were told they would get a full account," he said. "That hasn't happened."


18 posted on 09/11/2004 6:35:31 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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Although conspiracy theories are fun, I am not sure about Flight 800.

I know a lot of engineers at Boeing and I have gone to some pretty interesting engineering society dinner meetings, where before the speaker starts and over drinks we have talked about what happened. Included in one of these was an explosives expert from Sandia Labs who was brought in by the FBI and given free reign to look at various possible ignition methods.

The fuel tank explosion is a real low probability event. However, the plan sat on the ground for a long time and the fuel probably quite warm. I have heard a number of discussions about the fuel pump wiring and listening to people I 'know' and whose opinions I value, I have concluded that while an odd & low probability event, it probably wasn't the missle or other popular theories but some kind of wiring spark igniting fuel vapors.

19 posted on 09/11/2004 6:36:27 PM PDT by Robert357
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http://www.peterlance.com/sbnewpress.htm


20 posted on 09/11/2004 6:36:35 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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