Posted on 09/11/2004 12:05:54 PM PDT by buzzyboop
On September 10, 2004, Dan Rather declared war on the internet. He shouldn't have because it's a battle he is destined to lose. Addressing only a small part of the hundreds of criticisms that web-based critics and assorted typewriter, font, and military experts have lodged against his report, Rather and his CBS colleagues seem to have a masochistic desire for punishment. Our latest updates on the Memogate controversy are posted below. For our 21-point rebuttal to Rather's Sept. 10 salvo, click here.
The unraveling continues. Two of the three people cited on-camera by CBS News as vouching for its conclusion that Jerry Killian--the former Air National Guard commanding officer of George W. Bush--authored incriminating memoranda about the future president have, in subsequent interviews with other media organizations, tempered their support for CBS.
Robert Strong, who served with Killian as an officer tells the New York Times that he does not believe that his former associate used a proportional font typewriter during his time in the Texas guard.
"Mr. Strong said in an interview Friday he was quite sure that he and others used Selectrics in the adjutant general's office. He added that he was not sure the typewriters and devices were also in the 147th Combat Support Squadron at the Ellington base in Houston, home of the 111th squadron.
"'I'm skeptical that Killian was working on that,' Mr. Strong said."
Strong's comments come on the heels of a statement from Marcel Matley, a writing analyst whom CBS presented as having certified its four documents. Interviewed by the Los Angeles Times, however, Matley said that he only vouched for one to the network.
The sad thing is that this is the best they could do. Let's imagine, for a moment, that all of the charges are true. Does it matter? Did Bush leave the TANG and slander all of his fellow soldiers? Did he lie in sworn testimony at a Senate hearing? Did he meet with the enemy in France? Has he ever claimed to spend Christmas in Oklahoma when he was actually in Texas?
If this is the best they've got, the rest of this campaign is going to be very boring!
To someone who understands type, this is such an obvious and blatant forgery that I can't believe they even tried it. It's akin to putting a 100-dollar bill through a black-and-white photocopier and filling in the colored parts with a crayon.As many others have said, I believe this was a forgery intended to be caught. Hitlery's operatives are behind this (my guess). They want to make sure that sKerry goes down in flames.
By forging a document that is easily caught, and inticing a veteran nit-wit like Rather to put it out there for the whole world to see, it neutralizes anything the dims say about Bush and it makes it look like a sKerry operative did this.
Good move, Hitlery.
Plus the commonsense reflection that a JAG office would have much better office equipment than the office of commander of a TANG squadron commander. Maybe, but just maybe the clerk-secretary would have one. By and large ANG get hand-me-downs of almost everything, especially office equipments.
Agreed, that's why we need to sue CBS.
Make 'em bleed green!
Also prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the documents are phoney.
Welcome.
I haven't seen anyone yet come up with the most complete explanation for the transmission trail of the memos to CBS: these highly sensitive documents, obviously authentic, were already in Clinton possession in the late '90s for possible use in the 2000 campaign. Algore's ingratitude to Bill Clinton dictated that the memos would not be used then, so they were kept on ice for Hillary's 2004 campaign. Unfortunately, they were inadvertently stored away with all the other top-secret national security files when the Clintonlites left the White House, so Sandy Berger was dispatched (under the pretext of helping the 9/11 Commission's work) to rescue these and other important files from the National Archives! Wonder what other goodies Sandy Burglar had stuffed in his underwear????
Exactly!
If that is a forged document than Marty Heldt had them........
I have doubts about whether the forgery was intended to be caught. That would only apply if the forger(s) actually did have the knowledge and skills to know the difference. Yes, the memos are transparent fakes to the people who understand typography. But to a Chris Lehane or a Paul Begala, dwelling 24/7 in the cesspool of smears against Bush, rabid believers that there OUGHT to be such useful documents somewhere, it would be easy to construct the fakes in MS Word and believe they had done a really really good job of it. Remember, anyone of the same mindset as the CBS producers who fell for this would have believed they had constructed "the real thing" (or close enough) because they would be blissfully unaware of all the issues raised since the 60 Minutes - II episode.
I didn't know anything much about documents or forgeries (except what I've been reading on these threads), but I wouldn't think that (before now) the typical viper operative on the DNC or Kerry campaign, nor even Hillary's pals, would be any more aware of these issues than the suckers at CBS.
The narrow point is that a PO Box 34567 address is noted there, for Bush. The forger would/could have lifted the information from there. That helps the forged document pass a cursory "fact check."
I would put my money on Marty Heldt and his Iowa Workshop.....
haha! bump!
CBS and DNC Are Vindicated!
CBS OFFICIAL MEMORANDUM
FROM: Dan Rather
TO: All Peons, both within CBS and at DNC
RE: Vindication of 60 Minutes
DATE: September 15, 2004
Well, guys and gals, it's been a rough few days since we broke our great "hot news" story about the Bush documents. While it's true that some right-wing internet conspirators have recklessly doubted the authenticity of these vital documents, I have it on the best authority that they are authentic. No, I'm not going to ask Terry McAuliffe or Paul Begala to testify on my behalf in court.
I am happy to announce that the journalistic wizards of CBS have come into possession of yet another document, which proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that George W. Bush was AWOL on a boozing binge in Alabama in 1972 (you says who cares? Shame on you!). The forthcoming document has been authenticated by our most rigorous vetting process and certified as authentic by experts ranging from James Carville to Hillary Clinton. In fact, we even went "the extra mile" and submitted it to the Kerry campaign for rebuttal, and they seem to have nothing to say which would impugn this document's legitimacy. Clearly we are acting on the best authority.
Having exerted ourselves by going "many extra miles" to validate this document, we will be featuring it in our latest 60 Minutes - II episode this evening. Don't miss this exciting show, with this document we will refute all our critics and prove once and for all that CBS is the home of journalistic excellence and superior insight.
Welcome Texastrails.
As with all liberals, ARROGANCE is their driving force. With it goes such a feeling of superiority that they are smarter and they know so much more. They believe that they have been "endowed" with the obligation to "guide and protect us (from ourselves).Unfortunately, when things don't go their way, they are prone to go to the dark side since they have no morals....
So. How much do you think the Killians will be raking in from CBS? Hundreds of thousands? Milllions? Tens of Millions? . . .
THAT is cool. Chad, check out that link!
Maybe you're right. Any way you slice it, it's more time in the toaster oven for sKerry.
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