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To Dan Rather, with love
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Posted on 09/11/2004 7:51:29 AM PDT by rocklobster11

Or should I say fo or fr or f anything? It seems that the character f in all the MemoGate documents overhangs the character following it, as shown in the document below:

Based on information I got from Hugh Hewitt's blog, provided to him from Rice University Computer Science professor Robert Cartwright, I decided to look at the memos for evidence of kerning. You can see from the image above, that the character combination "my" appears to be kerned in one document but not the other. However, I'm willing to write this off as being due to artifacts from the copying process. Also, the default Microsoft Word document that overlays perfectly with the memos does not use kerning.

Even without kerning, the Time New Roman (and other proportional fonts) on the computer has a negative offset with the letter f. That means that the top of the letter f will overhang the next character. This is not something that you would get from a normal typewriter in 1972, event with proportional fonts. The text below was written on an IBM Selectric with proportional fonts, and you can see that there is no overhang of the "f" chararacter on the character that follows

It seems that the only way these memos could have been written in 1972 would be on an IBM Selectric Composer, which was a desktop typesetting machine. There is an excellent analysis of the IBM Selectric Composer on http://shapeofdays.typepad.com/the_shape_of_days/2004/09/the_ibm_selectr.html, that shows how close a document created on an IBM Selectric composer could match up to the memos in question. The image below shows the CBS memo overlaid with the output of the IBM Selectric Composer (overlay in red):

The line spacing is off, but if you read the site above, you will see that the line spacing could be adjusted, and you get a pretty good match to the CBS memos. However, this match is not as good as the one produced with Microsoft Word in default settings. To see this, you can look at this Flash animation showing an overlay of MS Word ontop of one of the memos. The animation takes about 30-45 seconds to run, so watch it all.

If you read the commentary at http://shapeofdays.typepad.com/the_shape_of_days/2004/09/the_ibm_selectr.html, you will see the difficulty of creating this document on an IBM Selectric Composer: (e.g. requiring the switching out of font balls to get the superscript or the purchase of a special font ball just to add this non standard character, and the perfect centering of the header which matches identically to the way MS Word centers the same text.

The Boston Globe has interviewed an expert who confirms that these memos could have been created on an IBM Selectric Composer and that the Air Force completed service testing of the IBM Selectric Composer in April 1969. However, using the Composer was not a simple task, and it seems possible but improbable that the Texas Air National Guard would have had one of these machines or that Killian would have typed memos for his personal file on one of these machines. I've heard but do not have any evidence that the Composer was an expensive machine, on the order of several thousand dollars (which would be like $15,000 in todays terms).

All of the other documents in Bush's officially released files were not written with a proportional font, so it's up to CBS to produce other documents written in 1972 by Killian that are comparable to the CBS memos. Certainly, Killian or someone else wrote more than these 4 memos on this complex, expensive typesetting device.

It is possible that Killian wrote these memo's on an IBM Selectric Composer even though:

It's also possible that the Moon Landing was staged in a film studio. It's also possible that there are Alien remains in Hanger 18 in Roswell, N.M. Anything is possible. If CBS were a news organization rather than a Democratic 527 organization, they might at least admit that while possible, the probability is that these are forgeries, and that there is greater probability of finding the Loch Ness Monster than that these memos were written by Killian in 1972.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; danrather; forgeries; killian; memogate
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To: rocklobster11
this Flash animation showing an overlay of MS Word ontop of one of the

 

Outstanding. Thanks for the link.

21 posted on 09/11/2004 8:09:04 AM PDT by Radix (...it is easier for logical men to appear barbarous than for barbarous men to appear civilized.)
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To: rocklobster11
Or F O nt Problems Dan Rather
22 posted on 09/11/2004 8:09:17 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: Lady GOP; rocklobster11; MamaLucci; atomicpossum; syriacus; Real Cynic No More; stevek1
Address the fact that General Staudt retired in '72 a year before the letter was written in '73.

By the way folks, did anyone notice on the news last night that General Staudt's nickname is "Buck".

A little odd that the famous post # 47 that firstly exposed this document farce by CBS the other day on FR was written by "Buckhead". Quite a coincidence.

Hmmmmmmmm, who is the famous "Buckhead"?

23 posted on 09/11/2004 8:11:04 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: rocklobster11

You're incredible!


24 posted on 09/11/2004 8:11:51 AM PDT by Sunshine55 (Anal sex is not a family value!)
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To: beyond the sea
Well, you're on to me. Yes.............I'm Susan Lucci. /sarcasm

LOL :)

25 posted on 09/11/2004 8:13:59 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: beyond the sea

In another challenge to CBS, Killian's boss, retired Maj. Gen. Bobby W. Hodges, told ABC News that he regards the documents as a computer "fraud," never saw them in the 1970s and didn't validate them for CBS.

Well that pretty much sums it up Rather, you clymer.

26 posted on 09/11/2004 8:14:35 AM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: rocklobster11
I want to see Dan Rather frog-marched out of BlackRock in handcuffs.
27 posted on 09/11/2004 8:16:48 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (CEO, VRWC: When you think treason, don't think Benedict Arnold - think JOHN FORGED KERRY!)
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To: rocklobster11

By damn, these accusations have gotten my pajamas in a knot, and I ain't goen take it anymore.


28 posted on 09/11/2004 8:21:55 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: rocklobster11

The whole problem with this will be the Sandy Berger Effect. The SBE means that a damning story erupts and simply gets ignored. That's what will happen here. It will be denied and soon ignored. Independent voters won't have a clue what went on, and all Rather has to say is that the challenges to his credibility are "partisan internet and talk radio" people, and the independent voter will understand that this is nothing.
So we must figure a way at FR not just to uncover this kind of thing, but to also carry it through to completion.


29 posted on 09/11/2004 8:22:34 AM PDT by Vinomori
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To: rocklobster11

In addition, Killian's son has said that his father shared an office with another officer and one secretary, who had a manual typewriter, not even an electric typewriter, let alone a Selectric. That was the only typewriter in the office and Killian had no typewriter at home.


30 posted on 09/11/2004 8:22:52 AM PDT by Eva
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To: rocklobster11

Did anybody listen to how Rathers voice sounded, Like he had been screaming all day


31 posted on 09/11/2004 8:25:37 AM PDT by Boazo
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To: rocklobster11

The only question I have is could the "copying" of the memos being blown up in any way cause an offset on the line up?


32 posted on 09/11/2004 8:25:44 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Do you just think I fell off a turnip truck?)
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To: rocklobster11

Any journalists or historians out there?

Has there been anything similar to this over the past 100 years?


33 posted on 09/11/2004 8:26:50 AM PDT by gipper81
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To: atomicpossum
LOL!
34 posted on 09/11/2004 8:27:00 AM PDT by syriacus (Kerry lied, while honorable men died. Benedict Arnold REALLY was a war hero before he was a traitor.)
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35 posted on 09/11/2004 8:28:09 AM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: rocklobster11

You are just a partisan political operative.


36 posted on 09/11/2004 8:30:41 AM PDT by petercooper (All I wanted to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: rocklobster11

Isnt there an "F" in John Kerrys initials? Coincidence?


37 posted on 09/11/2004 8:33:49 AM PDT by woofie (This document was generated in 2004 by a computer)
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To: rocklobster11

Thanks for your great work. The animation is so impressive. Just fantastic!


38 posted on 09/11/2004 8:34:11 AM PDT by SamiGirl
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To: Lady GOP
The whole problem with this will be the Sandy Berger Effect. The SBE means that a damning story erupts and simply gets ignored. That's what will happen here. It will be denied and soon ignored.

Not really. Watch the way ABC is on the case. ABC broke the news about Hodges saying CBS report was a fraud. The other networks are going to burn CBS. Isn't competition grand?

39 posted on 09/11/2004 8:35:00 AM PDT by HateBill (John Kerry -- the only hope for suicidal jihadists.)
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To: Vinomori

I don't think the rule of Sandypants applies here. The other networks and news agencies are in competition with each other more than they are biased against Bush. I think this might get more coverage than we think simply because they would rather smear their broadcast competitors more than they want to smear Bush. Or at least I'm hoping that's the case. The sad thing is that journalistic ethics won't be the motivating factor for this story, competition and ratings will.


40 posted on 09/11/2004 8:36:41 AM PDT by BC girl (Nero fiddled as Komrade Hillary sang, "We will take things away from you for the common good.")
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