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Typewriter Expert can't duplicate Guard memos using IBM Composer
The Shape of Days Blog ^ | 9-10-04 10:34 PM | J Harrell

Posted on 09/11/2004 7:39:33 AM PDT by handy

When I first heard back from Gerry, I felt a little bad for having bothered him. He'd been fielding calls and letters all day, he told me, including an inquiry from CNN. But he was a trouper, willing — enthusiastic even — to help out.

I asked Gerry, in a fit of hubris, if he wouldn't mind trying to reproduce a sample from one of the CBS memos on his Selectric Composer. Just over an hour later, he emailed me back a sample, typed up on his Composer using the 11-point Press Roman type ball and scanned into his computer.

At first glance, the sample Gerry provided looks pretty darned close. The type is proportionally spaced, just like the type in the CBS memos. Gerry was also able to reproduce the now-infamous superscripted "th," though he had a disclaimer about that.

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The most obvious discrepancy was that the line-spacing — what typographers call leading (rhymes with "shredding") — was off. I e-mailed Gerry about this, and he replied: "Yes, if I had really tried, I could have matched the spacing (leading). The leading on the composer can be finely adjusted. Don't know if it is down to the single point level, but it probably is since you can set the leading according to the font, and the leading dial goes from something like 6pt up to 14pt."

Much better … and pretty darned close to the original. But not close enough.

(Excerpt) Read more at shapeofdays.typepad.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; cbs; fakedocuments; forgery; killian; nationalguard; rathergate; selectricgate; tang
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To: handy
The best part of all is farther down than what you quoted. The centering was still manual. That is, the IBM Selectric Composer didn't help you with this at all. You had to manually compute the size of the character strings and position the printing point accordingly for each line. (This is an incredible amount of trouble for a guy who didn't type but was nevertheless typing a "file" memo on a typesetting machine not otherwise used in his office, a memo to go nowhere anytime soon.)

Two supposedly manually centered letterheads typed months apart on an electromechanical wonder from 1972 line up pixel by pixel on a computer. Not "closely." Exactly.

61 posted on 09/11/2004 8:55:45 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Two supposedly manually centered letterheads typed months apart on an electromechanical wonder from 1972 line up pixel by pixel on a computer. Not "closely." Exactly.

These in turn match up with what you get by default in Microsoft Word with centering turned on. My, my!

62 posted on 09/11/2004 8:58:31 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: handy

See there? Mrs. Killian said her husband couldn't type!! Ha, ha, ha... tough way for ol' Dan Blather to end his crummy career, eh?


63 posted on 09/11/2004 9:02:18 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: SandRat

But I still want to know which base was Killian at?

My husband was at Perrin AFB in Texas.


64 posted on 09/11/2004 9:07:17 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Let me repeat this: the web means never having to swallow leftist garbage)
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To: OpusatFR

I'm not a Texas feller so I can't help you but that name you mentioned does sound familiar.


65 posted on 09/11/2004 9:09:16 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: handy; mabelkitty

mabelkitty

Here's one to add to your list...

Actually, it appears that the MS Word matchup is even better (though that is hard to imagine) if you use the font "Palatino Linotype".

Grampa Dave posted a source:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1212980/posts?page=91#91


66 posted on 09/11/2004 9:14:05 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: ScottFromSpokane

... and after all that it MAGICALLY is reproduced faithfully by MS Word thirty years later!!!

as it the perfect centering of the heading --- twice!!!

/


67 posted on 09/11/2004 9:16:53 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Allegra

Some spokeswoman for the DNC said yesterday that even if the memos were proven to be forgeries, they wouldn't necessarily distance themselves from the information provided in them.

I'm not kidding.


68 posted on 09/11/2004 9:18:08 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (God bless Senator Zell Miller.)
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To: sirchtruth
Funny, I don't recall any of what Killian or his step-mom stated being in the BOGUS CBS report?

That's because CBS does not see itself as presenting the truth, it sees itself as the prosecution; thus it need only present one side of the story and it is up to others to present the other side.

69 posted on 09/11/2004 9:18:26 AM PDT by PMCarey
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To: kenth

"The left, from DUers, to Juan Williams, to Rather himself, have all been crying, "Stop worrying whether the memo is fake or not, look at what it says!" "


Yeah, it's a good thing they didn't say W was a space alien or something.

Remember, it's not the nature of the evidence but the seriousness of the charges.


70 posted on 09/11/2004 9:23:52 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: nikos1121
I think the most compelling proof is that the memos could not possibly have been centered on any typewriter at that time, that consistently.

It's an excellent point and let me summarize what I think is the main argument. You could center text on a typewriter by simply tab to the center of the page and then backspacing once for every letter or space in the line you want to center. However that presumes that you are using a monospace font - which typewriter fonts usually are.

However that technique would not work with a proportional font because the widths of the individual characters and spaces will vary. In order to center a line of text using proportional fonts you have to first calculate the width of the entire line and then start the line at the point in which you would be centered.

Word does this automatically for you and thus we don't think of centering as a big deal. However to center text on a typewriter with proportional fonts in 1972 would be a lot of work and beyond the capability of someone who was not familar with typesetting and who was working a machine capable of lining up text to fractions of points. This is extremely unlikely for a machine found in a National Guard office used to type memos that are not prepared for professional publishing.

The fact that the centered text matches exactly to the Word document (created using the default setting of Word btw with no special work) to me is definitive proof of forgery.

72 posted on 09/11/2004 9:26:55 AM PDT by PMCarey
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To: handy
Your list is OUTSTANDING, and overwhelming....

I hope you have taken steps to distribute it WIDELY, to folks like Hannity, Rush and others......

Semper Fi
73 posted on 09/11/2004 9:27:23 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: lavrenti

you posted the wrong link somehow, and I can't figure any way to recover what you meant... try again?


74 posted on 09/11/2004 9:29:55 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: handy

CBS: Unsinkable!


75 posted on 09/11/2004 9:31:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Admin Moderator

Please delete post #71


76 posted on 09/11/2004 9:32:25 AM PDT by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: AFPhys

This is the correct link, LOL.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1212991/posts


77 posted on 09/11/2004 9:33:30 AM PDT by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: Travis McGee
The problem is, that the major media these days are shameless.

Yes they know they are exposed as liars, outright. But that won't stop them. They'll still move right on to the next lie. They won't look back. They won't apologize. They will just go right on to the next deception.

Shamelessly. Brazenly. Clinton taught them that.

78 posted on 09/11/2004 9:34:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: reg45
"Dan Rather is not fit to be a successor to Edward R. Murrow."

I agree -- but Rather is a perfect successor to Cronkite..

They're both liars, socialists and biased "One Worlders" with an agenda of their own...

Truth was never a priority with either one of them..

Semper Fi

79 posted on 09/11/2004 9:36:13 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Squantos

The DUnces are eating their own over fontgate. If anyone of them mentions that there are mulitple flaws in the document that go beyond the CBS defense, they are automatically labeled a Right Wing Shill by the others and some of them are getting banned!


80 posted on 09/11/2004 9:36:22 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Partisan Political Operative)
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