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Osama Bin Laden May Be Dead, Says Pak Minister
INDO Link ^ | Sept 11, 2004

Posted on 09/11/2004 3:11:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 09/11/2004 3:19:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Karachi, Sept. 11 (NNN): Three years on from his outfit’s most deadly attacks as the world still hunts for the Saudi rebel, Pakistan Information Minister Sheikh Rashid has indicated that Al-Qaeda terror network kingpin Osama bin Laden may be dead.

Addressing Meet the Press at Karachi Press Club on the eve of third anniversary of September 11, 2001, terror attacks on the United States, the minister, however, pointed out that around 200-300 foreign militants were hiding in Wana who are ‘master planners’ as they had got enough training in Afghanistan.

“We are not averse to dialogue but we would give bullet to bullet reply in Wana and Balochistan also,” Sheikh Rashid declared. “If we had not started operation in Wana, the US would have done this and think what would have happened then,” the minister asked.

He said that militants may go to other areas or cities but the forces would move there also as the government was determined to eliminate terrorism.

The minister hinted that the government was about to take ‘very important decisions’ regarding water, ties with India and terrorism.

“For bold decisions, bold man was imperative,” the minister said in an apparent reference to Gen. Pervez Musharraf, claiming that the 17th Amendment allows Gen. Pervez Musharraf to occupy the both offices of President and Chief of Army Staff simultaneously.

Widening Threat: Meanwhile, most analysts believe there is a danger in laying too much emphasis on al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden alone when the reality of growing terrorism is more complex - and perhaps more dangerous.

Undoubtedly that the core of al-Qaeda has been disrupted. It has lost its secure sanctuary and training camps in Afghanistan and is finding it harder to organise and communicate under pressure.

The core of hardened veterans has been hit hard in the past three years.

In his New York convention speech on September 2, 2004, President George Walker Bush declared that American strategy was succeeding and that "more than three-quarters of al-Qaeda's key members and associates have been detained or killed".

(Excerpt) Read more at indolink.com...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; binladen; binladendead; elvisbinladen; napalminthemorning; obl; thirdanniversary
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To: ProudVet77; ASA Vet; Cyclops08; alloysteel; Jim Robinson; Cindy
IMO........OBL is still alive and on the family machine.......

.......anyway,........his 'clones' are everywhere......

/sarcasm

21 posted on 09/11/2004 3:52:40 AM PDT by maestro
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To: Cyclops08; demlosers
Oops, That will teach me, (again,) to read the rest of a thread before posting.
The ElvisBinLaden Award had already been presented (to Jim) in a previous post.
22 posted on 09/11/2004 3:53:59 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: woodyinscc

Tah - dah!


23 posted on 09/11/2004 3:55:19 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: Harris

LOL yeah


24 posted on 09/11/2004 3:58:58 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

He is, he may be, he isn't dead... Until conclusive proof that he's DEAD is shown to the world then I'll believe he's alive.

I personally think that Bin is blowin in the wind, in bitty little fragments, having long ago taken a direct hit from a very large bomb, and that any eyewitnesses to this event are also blowin, and that you will never see conclusive proof.


25 posted on 09/11/2004 4:09:18 AM PDT by weaver
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To: alloysteel

We need him as the "Boogeyman", puts a face on the enemy.


26 posted on 09/11/2004 4:09:25 AM PDT by NYCop (In Memory of Maj Francis E Visconti USMC, MIA since 22 NOV 65, but not forgotten)
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To: Cyclops08

Did you read the article? They point out that there may now be 200-300 'master planners' still on the loose and they're going to follow them around the country.

Sure, they don't want the U.S. involved. That's natural. But they seem to want to do the job right. That's a good thing.

And I don't trust any government, especially a muslim one.


27 posted on 09/11/2004 4:12:10 AM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool (John Kerry: His 4.5 months in Viet Nam qualify him to do EVERYTHING)
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He's not dead, he's simply taken on the form of a thickly congealed bloody mass.

He's getting better....really...

28 posted on 09/11/2004 4:18:19 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Cindy
OBL is really in a guest house at Camp David, enjoying margaritas and following the campaigns

Carville, overheard at a party for ACME Documents Authorizers < /sarcasm>

29 posted on 09/11/2004 4:18:39 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hasn't Osama released an audio tape since our invasion of Iraq, where he specifically mentioned "Iraq"? I thought I remembered he had and that it had been authenticated.

If he is dead he's died since then.

We have to assume he is still alive. We have to continue to look for him until we know for sure.


30 posted on 09/11/2004 4:22:15 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (God Bless Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Jim Robinson

He's dead. This proud, cocky peacock would not be able to keep quiet this long if he was still breathing.


31 posted on 09/11/2004 4:23:42 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Jim Robinson

So what. Iffen he ain't dead, he's still callin' the shots. Iffen he is dead, somebody just like him is callin' the shots. Where does that leave us?


32 posted on 09/11/2004 4:25:43 AM PDT by abigailsmybaby (I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam.)
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To: weaver

Geraldo assured me Osama escaped from Tora Bora. Since then, I have heard W, Cheney, Condi, Rummy and General Myers say the odds are he is still alive (their best guess based on the info). I believe they believe their statements.

I have leaned toward his being dead, but have left room in my thinking for his being alive.


33 posted on 09/11/2004 4:30:41 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Jim Robinson

Osama may be alive, Osama may be dead (I happen to believe the latter); what is known is he isn't doing a whole lot of leading (something he had been doing from the 1980s up 'till December 2001).


34 posted on 09/11/2004 4:34:36 AM PDT by steveegg (C-BS, w/Dan Blather - the official network and anchor of the Clintonistas and Ketchup/Breck)
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To: Jim Robinson
So OBL is in Hog Heaven...

Great News! If OBL is dead I won $100.00 from my Democratic friend who believes President Bush has captured him and will show OBL in the per verbal October Surprise.

Water Cooler Bets:

Funny thing, I just made that bet yesterday and since the other office Democrats are feeling better about sKerry I doubled up on all of their action.

As far as OBL alive or dead, he's alive.

35 posted on 09/11/2004 4:37:00 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker ("Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It.")
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To: Jim Robinson

OBL's alive, he's just retired.

We have video and audio, CIA vetted, from post Tora Bora, and have captured people who've been in touch with him as late as late 2002. We have intercepted telephone calls made to Bin Laden as late as early 2003, and are aware of specific meetings with him as late as April 2003.

He stopped making videos when the Muslim world asked him to, because his sagging eyebags and green face (results of probably being wounded at Tora Bora) wasn't fitting the poster boy for terror image.

Zawahiri is a little more active, call him CEO with Bin Laden as Chairman of the Board.

Operational control has devolved to Bin Laden's son, Saad Bin Laden and his deputy, Saif al Adel, both based in Iran, who cooperate closely with Rafsanjani, VEVAK, IRGC, Qods and Hezbollah leaders, and who have staged numerous successful and failed attacks from Iran.


36 posted on 09/11/2004 4:38:22 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Jim Robinson

I've lost count how many times this cat has died. His head on a stick won't stop his followers.


37 posted on 09/11/2004 4:44:09 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: ASA Vet

Remind me of the significance of December 13, 2001.


38 posted on 09/11/2004 4:46:15 AM PDT by We Happy Few ("we band of brothers; for he to-day that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother;")
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To: jeffers

He is consulting...for the DNC and Soros' 527's.


39 posted on 09/11/2004 4:48:08 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: Jim Robinson
Meanwhile, most analysts believe there is a danger in laying too much emphasis on al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden alone when the reality of growing terrorism is more complex - and perhaps more dangerous.

He's dead. If the media is downplaying his importance, either they have him or he's dead.

40 posted on 09/11/2004 4:48:25 AM PDT by The_Victor
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