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Amid Skepticism, CBS Sticks to Bush Guard Story (New info--CBS 'expert' looked at only 1 doc)
LA Times ^ | 9-11-04

Posted on 09/11/2004 1:21:29 AM PDT by ambrose

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1 posted on 09/11/2004 1:21:31 AM PDT by ambrose
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2 posted on 09/11/2004 1:22:34 AM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: ambrose

Where's my hip-waders? It's gettin' real DEEP in here....


3 posted on 09/11/2004 1:22:38 AM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Howlin
As another of the corroborating experts for its report, CBS and Rather presented an on-air interview with Marcel B. Matley, a San Francisco document examiner. Rather said Matley had corroborated the four Killian memos.

But in an interview with The Times, the analyst said he had only judged a May 4, 1972, memo — in which Killian ordered Bush to take his physical — to be authentic.

4 posted on 09/11/2004 1:22:43 AM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: ambrose

Wow. The LA effing Times. CBS is neck deep in the Big Muddy and the old fool says move on.


5 posted on 09/11/2004 1:25:40 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: All
There's one misstatement in the Times article that I cannot allow to pass unmentioned:

Only one guardsman from that era has said he remembers Bush reporting in Alabama, where he had been allowed to transfer to help run the U.S. Senate campaign of family friend Winton "Red" Blount.

That officer, Lt. Col. John Calhoun, has said he saw Bush several times at Dannelly Field near Montgomery, Ala. But Calhoun said he made the sightings on dates the White House had already conceded that Bush did not serve.


This is flat out false. Below are just a sampling of the numerous witnesses who came forward back in February. Many, if not most of them, were interviewed in local papers, which the Big Media refused to pick up on. Again, this is just a sampling, because not all of the eyewitness stories were properly archived at the time:

Articles indexed to wguardwitness (in order of time indexed.)

Former Dannelly worker: Bush not AWOL [another eyewitness steps forward]
  Posted by ambrose
On News/Activism 02/16/2004 4:19:13 PM PST · 101 replies · 110+ views


THE DECATUR DAILY ^ | 2.16.04 | Eric Fleischauer
Former Dannelly worker: Bush not AWOL By Eric Fleischauer DAILY Staff Writer eric@decaturdaily.com · 340-2435 Retired Master Sgt. James Copeland does not care so much whether people think President Bush went absent without leave in 1972, but one thing he hears bothers him plenty. "Maybe the Bush family was well known in Texas, but we didn't know who he was here. He was just another guy in a flight jacket," Copeland said Sunday. Copeland, who lives in Hartselle, retired from the Air Force on Jan. 31, 1980. He was the disbursement accounting supervisor, a full-time position, for Dannelly Air National...
 

Memories place Bush in Alabama if records don't ["Why are you still whipping this dead horse?"]
  Posted by ambrose
On News/Activism 02/13/2004 10:23:44 PM PST · 11 replies · 55+ views


Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 2.14.04
Memories place Bush in Alabama if records don't By DAVE HIRSCHMAN in Montgomery , MONI BASU in Atlanta The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 02/13/04 The search for proof that young Lt. George W. Bush worked weekends at an Air Force base in Montgomery, 32 years ago has taken on a strange, forensic quality.  Family photo (ENLARGE) Lt. Col. John "Bill" Calhoun said he saw the future president each drill period when both men were serving in the National Guard in Montgomery.  EMAIL THISPRINT THISMOST POPULAR Dusty dental records and copies of old pay stubs provided by the White House are...
 

Doctor Recalls Treating Bush
  Posted by Hon
On News/Activism 02/15/2004 2:00:58 PM PST · 64 replies · 40+ views


Montgomery Advertiser ^ | February 15, 2004 | Jessica M. Walker
<p>A retired Air National Guard physician recalls giving President Bush a physical in 1972, his son said Saturday, adding another memory to the small but growing pool of recollections of Bush's military service in Montgomery.</p> <p>The memories of Bush's service contradict a dearth of paperwork surrounding his time assigned to the Alabama Air National Guard, but a retired Air National Guard personnel officer said the lack of records could very well be the result of shoddy record-keeping, as opposed to deliquence on Bush's part.</p>
 

Joppa man: Bush served in Guard in '72
  Posted by Conservative Coulter Fan
On News/Activism 02/21/2004 9:57:49 AM PST · 11 replies · 53+ views


THE DECATUR DAILY ^ | Eric Fleischauer
Not only was George W. Bush fulfilling his National Guard duties in 1972, he was already showing the conservative political ideology that is now the bane of many Democrats, according to a Joppa man. Joe Holcombe, 71, was the office manager for Winton "Red" Blount in his unsuccessful race for the U.S. Senate in 1972. Bush was the county coordinator for Blount's campaign, Holcombe said. The Blount family and the Bush family were good friends, Holcombe said. Blount lost to Morgan County native and U.S. Sen. John Sparkman. Bush joined Blount's campaign "a little before or a little after the...
 

6 posted on 09/11/2004 1:28:27 AM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: js1138

"CBS is neck deep in the Big Muddy and the old fool says move on."

That's very Rather-esque


7 posted on 09/11/2004 1:29:36 AM PDT by HarryCaul
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To: ambrose
Deflecting questions about whether Democrats had given CBS the documents implicating Bush, McAuliffe suggested it might have been White House political advisor Karl Rove who did so.

Even McAuliffe doesn't believe the documents are legitimate. Fortunately, he's too stupid to come up with a more convincing lie.

Hugh Hewitt had a comment on his site I found funny -- "Thank God for Terry McAuliffe -- the best DNC Chairman the Republicans could ever hope for!"

8 posted on 09/11/2004 1:29:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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---He said he did not form a judgment on the three other disputed memos because they only included Killian's initials and he did not have validated samples of the officer's initials to use for comparison.---

So he's only vouching for a copy of one signature. Wonderful. No wonder everyone is watching Fox.


9 posted on 09/11/2004 1:30:20 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: js1138
Wow. The LA effing Times. CBS is neck deep in the Big Muddy and the old fool says move on.

Wasn't that the same tact that Carville, Soros, and the Clintonistas tried to take during Lewinskygate? Nothing to see here.. move along....

Unfortunately for Rather and SEE BS, we have copies of their clumsy forgeries, just like we had that stained blue dress.

10 posted on 09/11/2004 1:31:52 AM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: ambrose
White House spokesman Reed Dickens called the insinuation that Rove was behind the documents "complete nonsense."

This is why I will never be a White House spokesperson. If anyone asked me if Rove was behind the documents, my answer would be "Wouldn't that be something?"

11 posted on 09/11/2004 1:37:12 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: ambrose
Het Kenneth,

All your old witnesses are belong to us. BWAHAHAHA

12 posted on 09/11/2004 1:45:18 AM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: KingKongCobra
Hey Dan,

Got any more where those came from? Didn't think so.

BUSTED

13 posted on 09/11/2004 1:46:47 AM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: ambrose
One more excerpt:

A CBS official who spoke on condition of anonymity said that the network had two other document experts, who CBS did not identify, examine the documents, which were copies of the originals.

The experts studied the type font or style, spacing and other variables and deemed the memos legitimate, said the official.


If this is true, why not NAME THE OTHER EXPERTS, CBS?

Here's what I think CBS did: They got Matley to authenticate the signed memo (which is a copy, and can't be definitively authenticated). They then took the other memos to their other two experts and asked them to compare the Matley-authenticated memo to the others, and say it came from the same typewriter. Those experts concluded that they did, without reaching a conclusion about whether the memos could be from 1972. That's likely why CBS isn't naming the other experts.

Funny how Matley talked to the L.A. Times, but not the Washington Post, isn't it? He told the Washington Post that 60 Minutes didn't want him doing interviews.
14 posted on 09/11/2004 1:47:04 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

Matley may be getting nervous...


15 posted on 09/11/2004 1:53:38 AM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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The retired Texas Air National Guardsman, (Camelli)sp? on Fox yesterday with Jim Angle, said that memo looked bogus, since you had a window of time to take the physical, and the dates didn't make sense...you had quite a lot more time, why would you get a warning letter early on? Plus Killian never sent warning letters to anybody about physicals. None of it makes sense.


16 posted on 09/11/2004 2:01:01 AM PDT by hershey
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To: claudiustg

That signature could have been cut and pasted. End of proof.


17 posted on 09/11/2004 2:02:47 AM PDT by hershey
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To: js1138

"Wow. The LA effing Times."

That IS remarkable, isn't it? Its like a snake eating itself tail-first!


18 posted on 09/11/2004 2:03:11 AM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: clee1
The CBS producer said that some alarms bells went off last week when the signatures and initials of Killian on the documents in hand did not match up with other documents available on the public record, but producers chose to move ahead with the story. "This was too hot not to push. If there were doubts, those people didn't show it," says the producer, who works on a rival CBS News program.

This is all we need to disprove these documents.
19 posted on 09/11/2004 2:18:48 AM PDT by stockpirate (Dick Morris; Before he spoke, supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor)
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To: ambrose
Keep on stickin'
and take a lickin'
20 posted on 09/11/2004 2:19:46 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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