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Posted on 09/11/2004 1:21:29 AM PDT by ambrose
Amid Skepticism, CBS Sticks to Bush Guard Story
By James Rainey and Elizabeth Jensen
Times Staff Writers
September 11, 2004
A CBS News report that suggested President Bush did not fulfill his military commitment 30 years ago fell under a growing cloud of skepticism Friday. But Democrats insisted that they had plenty of evidence to continue their campaign to show that Bush got breaks that other young men did not during the Vietnam War.
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A retired Guard major general — who Rather said in an interview would corroborate the CBS account — instead told The Times that he believed the memos from the late Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian were not real.
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Deflecting questions about whether Democrats had given CBS the documents implicating Bush, McAuliffe suggested it might have been White House political advisor Karl Rove who did so.
He offered no evidence to back that charge and White House spokesman Reed Dickens called the insinuation that Rove was behind the documents "complete nonsense."
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As another of the corroborating experts for its report, CBS and Rather presented an on-air interview with Marcel B. Matley, a San Francisco document examiner. Rather said Matley had corroborated the four Killian memos.
But in an interview with The Times, the analyst said he had only judged a May 4, 1972, memo — in which Killian ordered Bush to take his physical — to be authentic.
He said he did not form a judgment on the three other disputed memos because they only included Killian's initials and he did not have validated samples of the officer's initials to use for comparison.
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(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Where's my hip-waders? It's gettin' real DEEP in here....
But in an interview with The Times, the analyst said he had only judged a May 4, 1972, memo — in which Killian ordered Bush to take his physical — to be authentic.
Wow. The LA effing Times. CBS is neck deep in the Big Muddy and the old fool says move on.
Only one guardsman from that era has said he remembers Bush reporting in Alabama, where he had been allowed to transfer to help run the U.S. Senate campaign of family friend Winton "Red" Blount.
That officer, Lt. Col. John Calhoun, has said he saw Bush several times at Dannelly Field near Montgomery, Ala. But Calhoun said he made the sightings on dates the White House had already conceded that Bush did not serve.
This is flat out false. Below are just a sampling of the numerous witnesses who came forward back in February. Many, if not most of them, were interviewed in local papers, which the Big Media refused to pick up on. Again, this is just a sampling, because not all of the eyewitness stories were properly archived at the time:
Articles indexed to wguardwitness (in order of time indexed.)
| Former Dannelly worker: Bush not AWOL [another eyewitness steps forward] |
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| Posted by ambrose On News/Activism 02/16/2004 4:19:13 PM PST · 101 replies · 110+ views THE DECATUR DAILY ^ | 2.16.04 | Eric Fleischauer Former Dannelly worker: Bush not AWOL By Eric Fleischauer DAILY Staff Writer eric@decaturdaily.com · 340-2435 Retired Master Sgt. James Copeland does not care so much whether people think President Bush went absent without leave in 1972, but one thing he hears bothers him plenty. "Maybe the Bush family was well known in Texas, but we didn't know who he was here. He was just another guy in a flight jacket," Copeland said Sunday. Copeland, who lives in Hartselle, retired from the Air Force on Jan. 31, 1980. He was the disbursement accounting supervisor, a full-time position, for Dannelly Air National... |
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| Memories place Bush in Alabama if records don't ["Why are you still whipping this dead horse?"] |
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| Posted by ambrose On News/Activism 02/13/2004 10:23:44 PM PST · 11 replies · 55+ views Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 2.14.04 Memories place Bush in Alabama if records don't By DAVE HIRSCHMAN in Montgomery , MONI BASU in Atlanta The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 02/13/04 The search for proof that young Lt. George W. Bush worked weekends at an Air Force base in Montgomery, 32 years ago has taken on a strange, forensic quality. Family photo (ENLARGE) Lt. Col. John "Bill" Calhoun said he saw the future president each drill period when both men were serving in the National Guard in Montgomery. EMAIL THISPRINT THISMOST POPULAR Dusty dental records and copies of old pay stubs provided by the White House are... |
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| Doctor Recalls Treating Bush |
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| Posted by Hon On News/Activism 02/15/2004 2:00:58 PM PST · 64 replies · 40+ views Montgomery Advertiser ^ | February 15, 2004 | Jessica M. Walker <p>A retired Air National Guard physician recalls giving President Bush a physical in 1972, his son said Saturday, adding another memory to the small but growing pool of recollections of Bush's military service in Montgomery.</p> <p>The memories of Bush's service contradict a dearth of paperwork surrounding his time assigned to the Alabama Air National Guard, but a retired Air National Guard personnel officer said the lack of records could very well be the result of shoddy record-keeping, as opposed to deliquence on Bush's part.</p> |
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| Joppa man: Bush served in Guard in '72 |
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| Posted by Conservative Coulter Fan On News/Activism 02/21/2004 9:57:49 AM PST · 11 replies · 53+ views THE DECATUR DAILY ^ | Eric Fleischauer Not only was George W. Bush fulfilling his National Guard duties in 1972, he was already showing the conservative political ideology that is now the bane of many Democrats, according to a Joppa man. Joe Holcombe, 71, was the office manager for Winton "Red" Blount in his unsuccessful race for the U.S. Senate in 1972. Bush was the county coordinator for Blount's campaign, Holcombe said. The Blount family and the Bush family were good friends, Holcombe said. Blount lost to Morgan County native and U.S. Sen. John Sparkman. Bush joined Blount's campaign "a little before or a little after the... |
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"CBS is neck deep in the Big Muddy and the old fool says move on."
That's very Rather-esque
Even McAuliffe doesn't believe the documents are legitimate. Fortunately, he's too stupid to come up with a more convincing lie.
Hugh Hewitt had a comment on his site I found funny -- "Thank God for Terry McAuliffe -- the best DNC Chairman the Republicans could ever hope for!"
---He said he did not form a judgment on the three other disputed memos because they only included Killian's initials and he did not have validated samples of the officer's initials to use for comparison.---
So he's only vouching for a copy of one signature. Wonderful. No wonder everyone is watching Fox.
Wasn't that the same tact that Carville, Soros, and the Clintonistas tried to take during Lewinskygate? Nothing to see here.. move along....
Unfortunately for Rather and SEE BS, we have copies of their clumsy forgeries, just like we had that stained blue dress.
This is why I will never be a White House spokesperson. If anyone asked me if Rove was behind the documents, my answer would be "Wouldn't that be something?"
All your old witnesses are belong to us. BWAHAHAHA
Got any more where those came from? Didn't think so.
BUSTED
Matley may be getting nervous...
The retired Texas Air National Guardsman, (Camelli)sp? on Fox yesterday with Jim Angle, said that memo looked bogus, since you had a window of time to take the physical, and the dates didn't make sense...you had quite a lot more time, why would you get a warning letter early on? Plus Killian never sent warning letters to anybody about physicals. None of it makes sense.
That signature could have been cut and pasted. End of proof.
"Wow. The LA effing Times."
That IS remarkable, isn't it? Its like a snake eating itself tail-first!
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