Posted on 09/10/2004 4:16:07 PM PDT by Dog
The expert ambush need not be a handwriting expert; it could be any kind of expert. Since I know about handwriting, I will use it to illustrate how to hold out until you can call in your own expert trooper, of whatever brand expert. Not being an attorney, I cannot tell you about laws and rules, only about techniques for taking the upper hand over the expert who knows it all, while you know nothing at all about that expertise.
The usual guidelines for cross-examining an expert are either inapplicable when facing the expert ambush or require modification. You are in a desperate situation, and desperation calls for desperate measures.
Your strategy is to make as legitimately lengthy an examination as possible. Extend voir dire till you can call in a consultant to help with cross-examination of the expert’s testimony in chief. In the illustrative example, that means using up to one and a half hours for a thorough voir dire after the fifteen-minute, or less, presentation of qualifications. The 60 to 90 minutes for lunch might permit finding someone who can come in today.
Then your strategy is to make a technically and properly complete cross-examination till the 5 p.m. adjournment. At which time the judge should be informed either that your examination is complete or precisely how much more you have to go. Resist the ploy of telling the judge you only have two or three more questions. As we all know, when an attorney says, "I only have two or three more questions to go," the word "question" is a synonym for "hour."
(Excerpt) Read more at expertpages.com ...
They want to turn this into a HE SAID/HE SAID debate..
The signature on those documents is probably a scan of an authentic signature by this man.
The best way to prove these are fakes would be to find the the documents from which these signature were scanned.
IMHO their strategy is to stall with smear charges until they get to the assault weapons ban expiration, which is a subject they can demagogue. Then more smears until the debates. Also note how they've completely twisted Cheney's words into "If you don't vote for us, there will be another attack" (which of course is NOT what he said), so that when an attack occurs they can then spin it as "They said that they would prevent an attack, but they did not." Clearly the Dems are counting on an attack happening before the election.
Vert interesting. Good job dog!
I've found an article where matley says you can't trust copies. Posted in a different thread.
Some quick time in Google seems to show Mr. Matley as a handwriting expert. I would not be surprised if Mr. Matley was not familiar with the intricacies of Kerning, curved apostrphes, exact centering, and 13-pt line spacing.
Whoa! I do believe you're on to something here, Dog!
appearnelty, it was removed. check this one out.
http://d2d.ali-aba.org/_files/thumbs/components/PLIT0209-MATLEY_thumb.pdf
"In fact, modern copiers and computer printers
are so good that they permit easy fabrication of
quality forgeries. From a copy, the document examiner
cannot authenticate the unseen original
but may well be able to determine that the unseen
original is false. Further, a definite finding
of authenticity for a signature is not possible
from a photocopy, while a definite finding of falsity
is possible."
Marcel Matley
Hmmm...interesting. Very interesting.
My point was that if they don't have the originals, their own expert had previously admitted that you cannot confirm a document is authentic.
So the question is, DID CBS HAVE ORIGINALS< OR COPIES??
The documents on CBS site themselves have a bunch of random dots on them, which is what you would expect from something that has been copied several times.
I think they had copies, and copies of a signature can not be relied upon because of computer generated signatures, which Matley was referring to.
Not exactly random. Print out the docs and hold up the 5/4/72 memo with the 8/18/73 memo and a line of dots allign at exactly the same distance from the left margin. The other two docs from dates between these two dates don't have this same line of dots on them.
I don't think the cavalry is going to win this one Colonel Custer. Rather just met his Little Big Horn
bookmarking
They're going to try to stall until they find a typewriter which can duplicate these documents. And they will, they are out there but then they will need to show why Kilian is worried about Staudt when Staudt is retired and why Killian signed some docs differently. And come on...34567?
Ditto!
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