[Khan Noonian Singh]

Here is a reference to the same document from WAY BACK IN JANUARY! It even mentions PO Box 34567.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Y39Sb.5962239%24be.974637%40news.easynews.com

29 January 2004

George, I don't know if you have any military background or not, but if you
do and you looked at those documents, you could very easily discover the
obvious forgeries, alterations and lack of authenticating seals.

If you want, go back to them and check out these things. One chronological
listing that is typed, except for a couple of handwritten entries. Wouldn't
you think the guy making those entries would at the very least know the
military date format? On another, look at the address of the Capitan. Do you
really thing official military or National Guard business would be conducted
using an officer's HOME ADDRESS? On another you will note the address as
being PO Box 34567, gosh isn't that imaginative? And, check out the ZIP Code
versus the city. Not even close. And check all the documents to see if you
can see any of the 3 required authenticating seals. I bought those documents
from the great Marty Heldt web site. Only 1 record actually has all three
authenticating seals and marks and it has nothing at all to do with the
charges being made.

This is an uban legend that a couple of guys are making a lot of money off
of. It was there well before the election of 2000 and had absolutely no
bearing at all on the election and will probably have even less now that it
has all been proven a lie.

The people that fall for this are a bunch of juvenille jerks that would not
know their ass from a bass fiddle when it comes to military matters. But, it
makes them feel like they are somebody amongst their playmates and that's
all they can claim as the major accomplishment in their miserable lives.

[MineralMan]

Uh-oh. Look out....storm's a coming.

Everyone should check this out. This is going to get more complicated fast!

[steveyp]

Interesting. What the devil is this?

[pushforbush]

Khan----YOUR POST DESERVES ITS OWN THREAD---THE DOCUMENT WAS AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET IN JANUARY! Send this to Powerlineblog.com and Drudge also, right away.

Amazing----what more can you find out.

[jbstrick]

This is interesting.... When did these documents supposedly come to light?

[Cboldt]

Here is a reference to the same document from WAY BACK IN JANUARY! It even mentions PO Box 34567.

That is a reference to a different document. One "released by Bush." I'll see if I can find a link to it ...

[deport]

Marty Heldt ....... This guy was the source of much of the Primary and General election material slamming President Bush during 1999 and 2000..... I used to have URLs to much of his stuff and may still have some.... Interesting that this has surfaced from back in Jan. 2004 whereby it's being shown to be a fake....

[pushforbush]

Khan---I can't believe you found this. IF you google the Post Office Box you find these forged CBS memos discussed in internet news groups back in January.

Did you notice "Brooks Gregory" mentioned in what you found

Have you tried to email him?
How did he know about the memo in January of 2004?
(brooksgregory@sbctelco.com)

[Cboldt]

Here is a reference to the same document from WAY BACK IN JANUARY! It even mentions PO Box 34567.

That is a reference to a different document. One "released by Bush." I'll see if I can find a link to it ... http://www.cis.net/~coldfeet/doc7.gif <-- Clickit to view

(I don't want to swamp that site until I see all the docs!)

[dandelion]

BLOGGED

[Spokane]

We need a new thread to air this one out. Good catch!

[GoLightly]

WOW!!!

[Shermy]

#457

You all should take a look at Khan's chat board find.

Indicates a couple of fellows back in January seeming to discuss the docs. These phonies could be stuff floating around Texas for years!

BTW, this is, I believe, Khan's first FontGate post. He's quite a diligent researcher as proven on the FR anthrax buster threads. Kudos.

[Shermy]

Tip: must see #457 and followups.

[dandelion]

They're discussed on Dec. 30 2003 HERE!!!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22po+box+34567%22+bush&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=43mIb.3344375%24be.518897%40news.easynews.com&rnum=6

..."Let me clue you in on something old Sport. Those documents you are basing
your bullshit on are as phony as a 3 dollar bill. If you knew anything at
all about such matters you would recognize that right off. For instance,
look at the Chronilogical record of service. Don't you think someone in the
military would at least know the proper format for a military date? The
person that doctored that particular record did not know it. Look at the
letter from the Captain at Ellington. Do you really think he would
correspond with another officer on Reserve related business using personal
home addresses, and phony ones at that. PO Box 34567????? Give me a break.
Hell the Zip Code ain't even close. Look at any of the other documents.
Hell, send Marty the 7 bucks and buy them all. If you see a DOD seal or
watermark on any of them, I'll pay you back your 7 plus a 100.

So like I said. Take it to the comedy channel. You'll have better luck
finding some suckers there."...

[MamaLucci]

Howlin, have you seen post #457??

Khan, if this document has been floating around on the internet since January, wouldn't the White House be aware of it? I think this needs it's own thread.

[Buckhead]

Well, that is just fascinatin', isn't it?

[deport]

Here's is some links to Marty Heldt that is from the time frame of the General election in 2000.... His FOIA, etc and gifs of his material

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Link to Marty Heldt's info

Other info from his website

[Teacher317]

The people that fall for this are a bunch of juvenille jerks that would not know their ass from a bass fiddle when it comes to military matters. But, it makes them feel like they are somebody amongst their playmates and that's all they can claim as the major accomplishment in their miserable lives.

Sums up Dan Rather rather nicely, doesn't it?

[El Gato]

I think they are talking about different documents, released earlier. Note that they don't talk about the font, other than the "th". They also talk about the PO Box for the unit, but I think we've established that is either correct, or was merely copied from an earlier document.

They are wrong about orders not being sent to a Guardman's home address. Where else would they send them. It's not like he's in the squadron office, or even on the base, every day. All my orders as a reservist and guardsman came to my house.