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Caddell: Dan Rather May Have Cost Kerry the Election (the cracks are starting to appear)
Newsmax.com ^ | Sep 10, 2004 | Newsmax

Posted on 09/10/2004 10:16:17 AM PDT by Hank All-American

Friday, Sept. 10, 2004 12:59 a.m. EDT Caddell: Dan Rather May Have Cost Kerry the Election

Longtime Democratic strategist Pat Caddell said Friday that if documents aired by CBS newsman Dan Rather Wednesday night turn out to be forged as alleged by experts, the presidential race "is over."

"It would be the end of the race," Caddell told Fox News Live. "It would be the end of the race," he repeated.

"[Democratic officials are] so involved in this," the former Carter pollster worried. "They have gotten themselves so involved in this issue, [in] the last 24 hours, that somebody's going to, if they're not authentic, they're going to be blamed for it. It's incredible to me that they've gotten in this." Caddell said he wasn't trying be sensationalize the issue, explaining that instead, "I'm trying to save my party, you know, by telling the truth."

He said that forfeiting the presidential race would be the least of his party's problems if Democrats are tied to any forgery scandal.

"The race is over - and we've got bigger problems than that," he warned.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ang; bush; forgeries; killian
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To: wideawake

Can anyone here put the memos back up on screen?


61 posted on 09/10/2004 10:42:27 AM PDT by Old Professer (The enemy is among us; he is us; we know it, we dare not say it - someone will be offended.)
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To: wideawake

Can anyone here put the memos back up on screen?


62 posted on 09/10/2004 10:42:28 AM PDT by Old Professer (The enemy is among us; he is us; we know it, we dare not say it - someone will be offended.)
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To: wideawake

Can anyone here put the memos back up on screen?


63 posted on 09/10/2004 10:42:29 AM PDT by Old Professer (The enemy is among us; he is us; we know it, we dare not say it - someone will be offended.)
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To: wideawake

Can anyone here put the memos back up on screen?


64 posted on 09/10/2004 10:42:30 AM PDT by Old Professer (The enemy is among us; he is us; we know it, we dare not say it - someone will be offended.)
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To: newgeezer
... and LBJ orchestrated the JFK assassination.

I believe there is a theory of discovering the truth (the title of which escapes me now) which is summed up by the question, "Who benefits?" Don't be so quick to doubt LBJ's involvement in the assassination of JFK either as a willing dupe or a conspirator to cover up after the fact.

65 posted on 09/10/2004 10:43:38 AM PDT by Snardius
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To: wideawake
The rest of the mainstream media will do their level best to downplay the blatant forgery.

I disagree, strongly. The MSM is sinking in public estimation and support, and, with one shark bleeding, the other sharks will turn on the dying one in a fury.

They will also crucify Kerry if it turns out his campaign duped CBS.

It's about survival.

66 posted on 09/10/2004 10:45:20 AM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Tragically Single

Ping!


67 posted on 09/10/2004 10:47:00 AM PDT by tuliptree76
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To: CharlieChan

absolutely correct.

I posted that on another thread, talking to some people I work with, they think the "forgery story" is about Bush forging his national guard records.

Rove and the political team needs to get on this fast, and correct the record right away. We don't need to address the Rather scandal, but we do need to make the story clear in people's minds about exactly what these forgeries are.


68 posted on 09/10/2004 10:47:13 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: alancarp

Is he the Democrat pollster type that lamented in 2000 (or maybe it was impeachment?) that his party had been taken over by a "confederacy of gangsters"?

V/R,


69 posted on 09/10/2004 10:47:25 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (Sniper: "One shot, one kill". Machinegunner: "One shot, one kill...again, & again & again".)
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To: CharlieChan

" When listening to CNN and MSNBC reporting this a.m., the two networks are wording the story as if documents from the official DOD records BUSH released are forgeries, and not stating that the docs came from CBS. This is going to make lots of people think BUSH forged the documents...The crapola continues."

Ann Compton did the same thing on ABC radio news. She said that documents released " by the White House " call into question George Bush's TANG service and that there were questions about authenticity.
To the ininformed listener,Compton wanted to make it seem as if it was the White House that had doctored the records, to give President Bush cover.


70 posted on 09/10/2004 10:47:40 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( When the going gets tough-John Kerry gets going-far away)
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To: wideawake
Even if Senator Clinton were to die in a freak Pilates accident (heaven forfend!), Senator Kerry would never get another nomination.

I was just trying to illustrate that the Clintons engineered everything that has happened to the Demoncrats in this election cycle... Kerry was their candidate of choice because they knew he was unelectable and would leave a clear field for Hillary in 2008.

Parenthetically, a friend who is a diehard Democrat and a pollster feels that Senator Clinton is too divisive a candidate to be nominated. He also feels that she has created her own enemies within the Party - for example, Senator Schumer would do anything to block her.

None of that matters.

She is married to Bill.

All Demoncrats know that having Hillary and Bill in the White House is the same thing as having Bill and Hillary in the White House.

Bill will do all her campaigning for her. All she will have to do is keep her mouth shut and smile.

71 posted on 09/10/2004 10:48:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

It's about how far this bunch will go. We know that skerry had no problem lying about his fellow soldiers in 1971. fast forward, we know that skerry has no problem in lying about G Winner Bush. (with the help of psycho Rather). It's a patern. Now the question is:WHY SHOULD ANYONE BELIEVE ANYTHING HE SAYS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.


72 posted on 09/10/2004 10:49:15 AM PDT by marty60
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To: NImerc

Can Kerry withdraw his name as the Dem presidential nominee? And what would be the process to replace him? Would Edwards be elevated? Who could, or for that matter would want to try to save this sinking ship?
Just a few questions going through my mind.


73 posted on 09/10/2004 10:49:46 AM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: oceanview
Rove and the political team needs to get on this fast, and correct the record right away.

You are so consistently wrong about every single political issue you discuss it's astounding.

Rove needs to do nothing but stand back and let these people eat each other. CNN is going to demand that CBS reveal the source, and CBS will have to, once they are convinced these documents are fake.

It will become clear that this was a conspiracy between the DNC and CBS soon enough.

Meanwhile, Bush is laying out his ownership society and giving people a reason to vote for him.

74 posted on 09/10/2004 10:52:36 AM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: GeorgiaFreeper

I called all the numbers, one was a CBS store. The lady was very nice and gave me another number. I could hear the phones ringing off the hook

The main number to call is 212-875-2006
or 212-975-4848

BE KIND, AND TELL THEM YOUR UPSET THEY DO NOT DO ACCURATE REPORTING. KILL THEM WITH KINDNESS. TELL THEM GOD BLESS AND THANK THEM FOR TAKING TIME TO TAKE YOUR CALL. It is working... and we are being heard!


75 posted on 09/10/2004 10:54:04 AM PDT by JFC
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To: T. Jefferson

I've been saying for weeks, Kerry will drop out. First I figured for his own bogus health reasons, but he's too arrogant and a coward for that. He'll drop out due to Teresa's bogus health reasons. "My wife is more important to me than the presidency.."

Edwards will be the nominee, the only question is whether the VP is Dean or Hillary. The trial balloon polls will decide if Hillary wants it on her resume or not.


76 posted on 09/10/2004 10:54:15 AM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: Hank All-American
Note that athe lying slime machine that led to this arrogance of falsehood, this disaster, was created by the Clintons, including their lying slime DNC Chairman.

But note also that they got out before it caved in, as usual, and, in fact, they will use it to clean out averyone but themselves, gain total control of the party, and then blame it all on the Republicans and Karl Rove and present themselves as the saviors from that which they created.

Watch!

P.S. D. Norris take especial notice.

77 posted on 09/10/2004 10:54:46 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Hank All-American
The newly placed Dims at KE04 (the Carville Gang) are right now counseling, "Stay the course. We've been through crap like this before. We know how to plow through this and win in spite of it. Don't admit anything. Keep attacking."

If there are any KE04 staffers reading this who still have integrity, step forward into the light and expose those crooks. (What am I saying?)

78 posted on 09/10/2004 10:54:48 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

they had better wake up Scott McClellan and get him to a microphone fast - because they are all doing this now, this is the spin they are trying to use to form people's opinion about this - to make them think the forgeries came from the white house.


79 posted on 09/10/2004 10:55:07 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
ABC evening news even showed the subscript th, but then ABC Night-line didn't bring up that part of the story at all. MSM is playing this for someone's gain and the Truth is not what they're after!!!!!!! Over looking that factual but staying on the he said, she said week parts that have nothing to do with PROOF. PBS newshour did the same.
80 posted on 09/10/2004 10:55:22 AM PDT by OldSgt. (USMC, Nam Vet, HMM-165)
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