Dr. Bouffard wonders if Killian kept just these memos or whether there are others. To be definitive, he needs to see the originals.Obviously, if this was a forgery the original was a nice clean MS-Word printout which has long since been destroyed.
-Eric
Most of them are done by reports that the delegations of the United Nations make up. America is going to learn the hard way that the United Nations works against it's interest.
Our politicians are nothing but fools.
Look at most of the laws passed lately, that are unconstitutional.
Most of them are done by reports that the delegations of the United Nations make up.
These reports become laws in America.
Congress is so easily lead by these reports that they base their opinions on to vote by.
Most of them go along with them this international world government.
Just look at the rulings of the Supreme Courts. Some of them say we should go by international law.
And Congress members changing our tax laws. Because the WTO says we have to.
THe WTO meets in secret and we don't know who sits on the board, but yet they are making all our trade laws.
Like I said, their Fools. That the way our Government run
Let's not overlook the obvious - both Killian's son and widow say these were not from their DAD/Husband - and that they did not release any of his files to anyone - so that begs the question as to who could have obtained them in the first place?
You'd still have to explain how the line breaks are identical to that when retyping the document in MS Word and how the formatting of the th is the same as in word (that is to say, where Word automatically formats the th into a superscript and where it leaves it on the same line are exactly identical to the way the th is left in normal mode in some parts of the memo and superscripted in others. This document is a complete forgery.
I hope its his professionalism thats keeping his jury out because these are forgeries. Period.
Yep.
I'm the one who sent him the technical specs on the IBM composer. I tried posting it here a bunch of times, but I've been shouted down since yesterday morning, and no one seems to want to check out the links that have the technical info.
It's in Dr. Bouffard's hands, now.
That fact is another hole in the story and makes the forgery case stronger. The copies of the memos look like Fourth or Fifth Generation copies, using 1970's - 1980's photocopiers.
These memos were supposedly found in Killian's personal files. There was no reason for anything other than the ORIGINAL memo to be in the file - he didn't send them anywhere other than his "CYA File". So, the person who supposedly found the memos, makes his own copies of them using CURRENT photocopying technology - so you have a First Generation Copy using modern technology. Even if you make additional copies of these memos, they all would have been done using modern copiers... there's no reason to have such lousy copies - other than a deliberate attempt to make them look old.
Dear Doug,
I'm not sure this accounts for the vertical proportional spacing (modern wordprocessors automatically adjust the space between lines, typewriters didn't, the "memos" are vertically proportionally spaced), or the kerning.
As another poster suggested, perhaps Lt. Col. Killian was writing his personal memos on a typesetting machine, and taking the time to do the kerning, too.
sitetest
Great job Doug!
Come by this thread too:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1212100/posts
Was there such a thing as CD-ROMs in 1983?
This seems to be a bone of contention and probably the most easily answered. I assume that particular National Guard unit still exists.
Surely someone from that period has photos of the office and the people in it and, incidentally, a pic of the actual typewriters in that office at the time.
These places are notorious packrats. Surely their archive has thousands of photos. Surely the equipment would be among the photos. In addition, aren't these military posts required to take annual inventory?
These documents were supposed to have came from LtCol. Killian's personal file. Not personnel file. Why would he have an copy of a CYA memo he wrote to himself in the file and not the original? If I was the Killian family, I'd sue Dan Rather and CBS.
Nonsense. This is what you'd have to do to reproduce the centered text, exactly.
Type the line on a separate piece of paper. With proportional fonts, even if you had a proportional typewriter, you don't know how long the line is until you type it.
Measure the length within a point (1/72 in.).
Reposition the carriage to the correct place, within a point.
Repeat for each line.
This was a person who does not know how to type, writing a casual memo for is personal record.
One 1973 memo cited someone named Staudt, who retired in 1972.
The good Dr. is being a professional here (somthing CBS lacked)....checking out all possibility...this is a good thing... try to go from say 98% sure to 100% sure based on the font alone that these docs could not have been made in 1972... before he offer his final opinion
Good work Doug, but I gotta go with JT. I'm a little confused, he needs to clarify what he means by "CD from 1983". I work in broadcasting that is heavily fortified with computers. Never saw a CD-ROM until the 90's sometime. And we received our first CD audio players in 1986.
I'll stand corrected, but I do believe the audio technology came before digital data.
http://journal.aiga.org/content.cfm?ContentAlias=_getfullarticle&aid=%23.%5EG%2F%0A
Courier was originally designed in 1956 by Howard Kettler for the revolutionary golfball typing head technology IBM was then developing for its electric typewriters. (The first typewriter to use the technology was the IBM Selectric Typewriter that debuted in 1961.) Adrian Frutiger had nothing to do with the design, though IBM hired him in the late 1960s to design a version of his Univers typeface for the Selectric. In the 1960s and 1970s Courier became a mainstay in offices. Consequently, when Apple introduced its first Macintosh computer in 1984 it anachronistically included Courier among its core fonts. In the early 1990s Microsoft, locked in a font format battle with Adobe, hired Monotype Typography to design a series of core fonts for Windows 3.1, many of which were intended to mirror those in the Apple core font group. Thus, New Courierlighter and crisper than Courierwas born. (In alphabetized screen menus font names are often rearranged for easier access so now we have Courier New MT in which the MT stands for Monotype Typography.)
Couriers vanquisher was Times New Roman, designed in 1931 by Stanley Morison, Typographical Advisor to the Monotype Corporation, with the assistance of draughtsman Victor Lardent. The Times of London first used it the following year. Linotype and Intertype quickly licensed the design, changing its name for their marketing purposes to Times Roman. Times Roman became an original core font for Apple in the 1980s and Times New Roman MT became one for Windows in the 1990s. (Ironically, at the same time IBM invited Frutiger to adapt Univers for the Selectric Typewriter, they asked Morison to do the same with Times New Roman.) Whether superior to Courier or not, neither of these digital renditions of Morisons original design is the best one available todayin the opinion of information design specialist Erik Spiekermann that honor goes to a version called Times Ten.
It appears that Morison was hired "in the late '60s" to do his thing with Times New Roman, but we don't know how long it took to get the job done. If you had a Selectric, all that you had to do was buy the new "ball". But, did the Texas National Guard even have electric typewriters, much less the Selectric?
Did he say anything about the 'smart'/curly apostrophes?