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1 posted on 09/10/2004 7:36:00 AM PDT by stockpirate
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UPDATE OF A STORY: A V.V.A.R. SPECIAL

http://www.i-served.com/v-v-a-r.org/040704_KerrySOS.html

The Los Angeles Times recently reported that selected leaders of Kerry’s Vietnam Veterans Against the War met with representatives of Hanoi who told these leaders which senators they wanted assassinated, and that Kerry participated in a “closed-door discussion” on November of 1971 on whether to do this. Kerry denies this, saying he resigned the organization in July of 1971. But there is a problem. Reporter Thomas H. Lipscomb in an article in The New York Sun wrote:



“A Vietnam veteran who said he remembers John Kerry participating in a November 1971 Kansas City meeting at which an assassination plot was discussed says an official with the Kerry presidential campaign called him this month and pressured him to change his story. The veteran, John Musgrave, says he was called twice by the head of Veterans for Kerry, John Hurley, who told him,”Why don’t you refresh your memory and call that reporter back ?” Musgrave said, “I told Hurley it was my first meeting as an state officer of VVAW and I remember Kerry being there. I remember what I remember.”



By then, the recollections of six witnesses, along with minutes and FBI records, placed Kerry at the Kansas City meeting, but the story has since then been sanitized until it simply disappeared. However, John Musgrave is a friend of Mr. Magruder and lives in the same area in Kansas. He was one of 62 Vietnam vets Mr. Magruder interviewed in Houston for this film. He appears in a photo with Mr. Magruder and General William Westmoreland at the end of the film. At that time Musgrave was running for President of Vietnam Veterans of America. Said Mr. Magruder, “Musgrave once autographed a book of his for me, On Snipers, Laughter, and Death:Vietnam Poems, as follows: “To Len - a true friend of the Vietnam veteran and a friend of mine - your buddy- John.” Said Mr. Magruder, “I have great admiration for John Musgrave. He is a man of great integrity and courage. He was very badly wounded in Vietnam and earned three Purple Hearts. He is very highly regarded in this community . He got out of VVAW when he saw how it was being used by the Left. If he says Kerry was at that meeting in Kansas City, then Kerry was at that meeting, period. I think Kerry has a problem here that has been buried by a media that is campaigning for Kerry.”


2 posted on 09/10/2004 7:38:26 AM PDT by stockpirate (Dick Morris; Before he spoke, supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor)
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This is an excellent post. I think this is the most important story for the coming weeks.

Ask yourself this: How and why did a young naval officer with only 600 people in his organization, VVAW, manage to obtain an audience with the North Vietnamese? Was it through surrogates like Ramsey Clark and others?

Fact is, Kerry is in Paris meeting with the North Vietnamese and negotiating for the release of POWs.

This story is talked about in the last chapters of UNFIT FOR COMMAND but the press has not pursued it and the Swiftees have not brought it out yet.

I think this information should be forwarded to Drudge, Rush and others.

Kerry has not had a news conference in over one month, except MTV and comedy central.

The press is going to have a field day with him.

nick


3 posted on 09/10/2004 7:49:14 AM PDT by nikos1121
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4 posted on 09/10/2004 7:49:15 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOUR YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: stockpirate
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And Kerry goes to to become not only a senator but is appointed to the Senate Foreign Relations committee his freshman year.

What are Kennedy's communist connections. Who else would have had the clout in the senate to protect this guy who months later is negotiating with Daniel Ortega?

Will update the John F. Kerry Timeline with any new information.
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8 posted on 09/10/2004 7:57:34 AM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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Are you tired of the lamestream media and the DemocRATS 'smear the messenger and disrespect the veterans' campaign?

Do SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Do what Reagan did - GO AROUND THEM AND GO DIRECTLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

Get your own "EXPOSE KERRY'S FRAUD SWIFT BOAT VETERANS FOR TRUTH" STICKER!

Swiftee window sticker thread! FReep mail for details on how to get one.

17 posted on 09/10/2004 9:26:23 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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Now, you're on to a story that needs to be investigated.

Consult http://www.cpusa.com web site for its determined efforts to defeat George W. Bush. And, why has the ACLU so many ads on TV in support of Kerry?

IMHO, Kerry's current so-called "flip-flopping" is not consistent with the determined life-long total consistency of his record, from the Commencement Address, to his 1971 Testimony, to the Harvard Crimson interview statements when he was first running for public office (outlining his firm commitment to the idea that American troops should be directed by the United Nations and should only be dispersed throughout the world under the direction of the United Nations).

This consistency of ideas can be traced through his entire 20 years in the U. S. Senate, documented by the things he has voted for and those he has voted against.

It's a little disingenuous now to portray an image of a person who flip-flops (and the Republicans and media have aided him), when his entire life seems to have been dedicated to a cause that has resulted in complete philosophical consistency. Could the so-called "flip-flopping" be a deliberate effort to make this candidate appear to be something he is not?

Perhaps it's not just documents that are the hoax here. Perhaps it's that the Democratic Party has been hijacked, the American people have been misled, and the predictions of George Washington and others of our wise Founders are being fulfilled. . . . . . . .that the greatest danger to the American experiment would come from within.

One can sometimes find out more about a candidate by examining carefully the nature and goals of his/her most ardent supporters than by merely listening to the candidate's words.

In the case of John Kerry, it may be the best measure of all.


18 posted on 09/10/2004 9:30:44 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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"I believe this information indicates that John F. Kerry and the VVAW were working for International Communists whose goal is to overthrow the United States of America and turn it into a Socialist/Communist state. The goal was not just to defeat the United States in Vietnam, the goal was also to weaken the FBI, CIA, military, courts, and other US Government institutions that defend and protect us in America from treats by our enemies."


Things only dreamed of in the 70's fulfilled by the Clintons, remember the wallbuilder "GORELICK"????

Wonder if the modern day A.N.S.W.E.R. gang are the step-children of the VVAW???


19 posted on 09/10/2004 9:31:21 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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26 posted on 09/12/2004 4:38:49 PM PDT by timestax
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To: stockpirate

bttt!


32 posted on 09/26/2004 2:39:10 PM PDT by Bellflower (A new day is coming!)
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Ping


39 posted on 09/26/2004 3:01:45 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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43 posted on 11/24/2006 4:31:27 PM PST by AmeriBrit (Soros and Clinton's for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington = SCREW.)
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