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WHO faked the "60 Minutes" documents?

Posted on 09/09/2004 9:16:44 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

Who produced these documents???

CBS? The Kerry campaign? MoveOn.org? The White House? The mafia?


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: forgery; killian
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To: Solar Wind
Read this thread late last night. FWIW.
201 posted on 09/10/2004 7:38:23 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Lunatic Fringe

203 posted on 09/10/2004 7:41:57 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kerry Kool-Aid: Changes flavors with every sip. Being Wrong is better than being F'n Wrong.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Thank God for the internet. Ten years ago they would have gotten away with this $h*t.

You've nailed it. This is all Al Gore's fault ....

204 posted on 09/10/2004 7:44:02 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: N. Theknow; All

That is brilliant!

I think it is someone under the age of 30. I'm 36 and I learned to type on a typewriter and everyone I know went off to college with one. There were a few computers in use at the time which would be similar to today, but almost everyone would have been familiar with an electric typewriter.

I think about 5 or 6 years after me would be a pretty good guess for someone to not be familiar with a typewriter.


205 posted on 09/10/2004 7:47:57 AM PDT by jbarkley
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To: AndyJackson

Will the turtle cross the finish line before the election?


206 posted on 09/10/2004 7:49:17 AM PDT by Samwise (Kerry is a self-made man. He created a doofus.)
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To: StoneFury
No, they said they did, but as a fact the emperor is nekked and all the would-be tyrants are lazy sods...
207 posted on 09/10/2004 7:51:26 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: Mike Bates

Ditto. Sandy Berger did it!

-- Joe


208 posted on 09/10/2004 7:52:16 AM PDT by Joe Republc
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To: Old Sarge

Geez she's been hit with an ugly stick. Is that an optical illusion, or are her pupils not equally dialated, like David Bowie. I think that is a nervous disorder. Ugh, I can't look any more.


209 posted on 09/10/2004 7:52:24 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Righter-than-Rush
Hillary will jump in. SOme of us think that JF Kerry is a plant...

That dog won't hunt. Terry McAwful is up to his eyeballs in this, and it exposes the whole party. Every democrat, every last one of them.

210 posted on 09/10/2004 7:53:32 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Registered

CBS is on record saying they cleared these documents with people who saw them at the time they were created.


Hmmmmm.


211 posted on 09/10/2004 8:00:19 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: PJ-Comix
I bet Karl wishes he could do something this clever, but CBS is on record saying they confirmed the documents with people who saw them at the time they were created.
212 posted on 09/10/2004 8:09:23 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: commish

THE CBS PAPERS [Jed Babbin]
I spoke to Col. Bill Campenni (USAF ret) earlier this morning. As I've written before, Campenni was a member of the President's squadron and flew with him often. Campenni told me that there are a whole slew of reasons -- beyond those being debated now -- to question the authenticity of the CBS papers:

1. The 4 May 1972 order and the 1 August 1972 memo both have a letterhead for the wrong organization. Correspondence and orders in those days would be issued in the name of the parent organization -- the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group -- rather than the squadron. The letterhead is typed. They used printed ANG letterhead;

2. Orders were issued on the standard USAF orders form. (I still have a stack of my old ones. There's not a "memo" among them). Campenni remembers that orders weren't issued as "memos" like the 4 May 72 document;

3. The Killian "CYA" memo of August 1973 refers to pressure by Gen. Standt. The problem with this is that Standt retired in 1972. Why would anyone be worried about pressure from him?

4. Jerry Killian, according to Campenni, never went near a typewriter. In the Air Force, in those days, notes -- if anyone kept them at all -- were handwritten. That raises questions about both the 19 May 72 and the 18 August 73 memos. And, lest we forget, bureaucrats -- not fighter jocks -- write "cya" memos.

5. Orders -- like the purported 4 May 72 order to take the flight physical - wouldn't normally have been signed by Killian. They would be signed by a senior sergeant "by order of" Killian.

If, as it appears, someone faked these papers they did a bad job of it. I can tell you that in the early to mid-1970's when I was on active duty, the active service didn't have anything fancier than the earliest models of the IBM Selectric typewriter, and many offices didn't even have those. The reserves and national guard had our cast-offs, so it's terribly unlikely they could have produced anything as fancy as these papers. (Is it just my imagination, or is Dan Rather's nose growing longer every day?)
Posted at 10:38 AM


213 posted on 09/10/2004 8:10:32 AM PDT by NEBO (You don't create terrorists by fighting back. You defeat the terrorists by fighting back. ~GWBush~)
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To: buffyt
Whatever happened to Quidam? and Ash? and Eschoir?

Ash and Eschoir were banned so many times they seemed to have movedon. I think Quidam was a dem plant stirring up false hopes here.

214 posted on 09/10/2004 8:14:20 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Dan Rather should resign or be fired !!

CBS news should fire Dan Rather for not being absolutely positively certain of the authenticity of these forged documents. We are in the absolute final leg of a Presidential election and Dan Rather rushed to press to get these dociuments on the air because he thought it would potentially help Kerry and hurt Bush. He is blinded by his partisanship and is not fit to be a journalist.

Dan Rather never even looked into where these papers came from. It was his job to be CERTAIN of their authenticity. It's fitting that Rather's career comes to an end under this cloud of his extremist partisanship. He will always be remembered for this. His legacy will be fitting....a reporter who would lie to America if it supported his Left Wing Ideology.

215 posted on 09/10/2004 8:16:08 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: savedbygrace

Dan:"Thanks for the interview. Does Uday have the documents?"


216 posted on 09/10/2004 8:21:25 AM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: Dave Olson
Given the DUmmies are being driven stark raving nuts, we could be witnessing their destruction right before our eyes. Fun to watch, isn't it?

DU - The place I go to calibrate my maturity meter to zero.

217 posted on 09/10/2004 8:34:52 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: 1Old Pro
Dan Rather never even looked into where these papers came from. It was his job to be CERTAIN of their authenticity.

Earlier it was pointed out the address of the guard unit in the header was a PO Box ... instead of a street address, which was somewhat unlikely, but even more unlikely the PO Box number was 34567 ... consecutive numbers ... which is even more unlikely.

218 posted on 09/10/2004 8:44:08 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o
even more unlikely the PO Box number was 34567 ... consecutive numbers ... which is even more unlikely.

Dan Rather is not only a Leftist, he's a fool.

219 posted on 09/10/2004 8:47:43 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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