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Anatomy of a Forgery
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| Washington Prowler
Posted on 09/09/2004 9:13:11 PM PDT by hope
Edited on 09/09/2004 9:22:01 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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Anatomy of a Forgery |
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By The Prowler |
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Published 9/10/2004 12:09:06 AM
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More than six weeks ago, an opposition research staffer for the Democratic National Committee received documents purportedly written by President George W. Bush's Texas Air National Guard squadron commander, the late Col. Jerry Killian.
The oppo researcher claimed the source was "a retired military officer." According to a DNC staffer, the documents were seen by both senior staff members at the DNC, as well as the Kerry campaign.
"More than a couple people heard about the papers," says the DNC staffer. "I've heard that they ended up with the Kerry campaign, for them to decide to how to proceed, and presumably they were handed over to 60 Minutes, which used them the other night. But I know this much. When there was discussion here, there were doubts raised about their authenticity."
The concerns arose from the sourcing. "It wasn't clear that our source for the documents would have had access to them. Our person couldn't confirm from what file, from what original source they came from."
The documents that CBS News used were not documents from any of Bush's personnel files from his time in the National Guard. Rather, CBS News stated that they were documents uncovered in the personnel files of Killian. That would explain why the White House or the Pentagon had never before released or even seen them.
According to a Kerry campaign source, there was little gossip about the supposedly hot documents inside the office of the campaign on McPherson Square. "Those documents were not something anyone was talking about or trying to generate buzz on," says the staffer. "It wasn't like there were small groups of people talking about this as a bombshell. I think people here weren't sure what to make of it, because provenance of these documents was uncertain."
A CBS producer, who initially tipped off The Prowler about the 60 Minutes story, says that despite seeking professional assurances that the documents were legitimate, there was uncertainty even among the group of producers and researchers working on the story.
"The problem was we had one set of documents from Bush's file that had Killian calling Bush 'an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot.' And someone who Killian said 'performed in an outstanding manner.' Then you have these new documents and the tone and content are so different."
The CBS producer said that some alarms bells went off last week when the signatures and initials of Killian on the documents in hand did not match up with other documents available on the public record, but producers chose to move ahead with the story. "This was too hot not to push. If there were doubts, those people didn't show it," says the producer, who works on a rival CBS News program.
Now, the producer says, there is growing concern inside the building on 57th Street that they may have been suckered by the Kerry campaign. "There is a school of thought here that the Kerry people dumped this in our laps, figuring we'd do the heavy lifting on the story. That maybe they had doubts about these documents but hoped we'd get more information," says the producer. "If that's the case, then we're bigger fools than we already appear to be judging by all the chatter about how these documents could be forgeries."
ABC News' political unit held a conference call at 7:00 p.m. Thursday evening to discuss the memo and its potential ramifications should the documents turn out to be a forgery. That meeting took place around the time that the deceased Killian's son made public statements questioning the documents' authenticity.
According to one ABC News employee, some reporters believe that the Kerry campaign as well as the DNC were parties in duping CBS, but a smaller segment believe that both the DNC and the Kerry campaign were duped by Karl Rove, who would have engineered the flap to embarrass the opposition.
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To: hope
Karl Rove is about as popular with these guys as the guide on the day after an all-night Snipe-hunt.
381
posted on
09/10/2004 10:02:53 AM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The enemy is among us; he is us; we know it, we dare not say it - someone will be offended.)
To: Strategerist
I didn't realize there were enough hours in the day for Rove to do all of the things he is being accused of. 9:00AM Meet with Bilderburgers
9:30AM Adjust HAARP to generate more hurricanes
10:00AM Meet with Trilateral Commission
10:30AM Set up CBS with forged Killian Documents
11:00AM Consult with Bin Laden on timing of next Al Queda attack
11:30AM Build more SWIFTVET robots
12:00AM Eat lunch off the stomach of a naked virgin on a Satanic Altar
And that's just the morning!
This thread has more funny responses per foot than any I've ever seen, but yours definitely takes the cake. I'm saving it as an FR Classic.
382
posted on
09/10/2004 10:10:13 AM PDT
by
mrustow
("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
To: mlbford2
Heh, heh, heh, I'll take ANYTHING that will prove that Kerry and the DNC are cheats, liars, forgers, anything they've got. Would love to know who is really the author of those letters. Hmmm, anyone want to take a guess?
383
posted on
09/10/2004 10:10:49 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(GOD is STILL in control, even if Bush loses in 2004!)
To: mlbford2
Heh, heh, heh, I'll take ANYTHING that will prove that Kerry and the DNC are cheats, liars, forgers, anything they've got. Would love to know who is really the author of those letters. Hmmm, anyone want to take a guess?
384
posted on
09/10/2004 10:10:54 AM PDT
by
Marysecretary
(GOD is STILL in control, even if Bush loses in 2004!)
To: hope
....."the building on 57th Street "
That's where the protests should be held! Do you think the public will finally get the idea they have been duped for years by CBS, et al.?
385
posted on
09/10/2004 10:12:25 AM PDT
by
JustAnotherSavage
(If you don't like my peaches, don't shake my tree!)
To: ThomasMore
People forget real quick that the whole Viet Nam mess and the military service and duty mess was originated by the Dems. There was some Dem bimbo on Fox this morning stating that Kerry just wants to talk about the issues and that GWB keeps bringing up Vietnam then went off spouting about his landing on the carrier. I laughed so loud I almost committed an unpardonable sin...waking hubby up on his day off!
To: hope
Karl Rove?
Na. Everybody knows it was the Jews!
To: hope
The real tradgedy in all of this is.. what if there were no bloggers, what if the public was not this astute on issues?. How long has the news media duped the public with their liberal agenda's?. How many good men have been smeared by the MSM?. CBS news is nothing more than liberal Pravda and here we see it caught on paper (if you will) and boldly displayed to the public to effect the outcome of an election. Something is seriously wrong with the press and unless, We The People, do something about it, it will get out of control. I have refered to this many times as hypnosis of the public by the left.
388
posted on
09/10/2004 10:42:53 AM PDT
by
tomnbeverly
(Do not let the UN make decisions for the protection of the United States... VOTE for George W. Bush)
To: Ronzo
Can you imagine the dilemma inside CBS. Lose our jobs or lose the election!
389
posted on
09/10/2004 10:45:42 AM PDT
by
HawaiianGecko
(Use in a well ventilated area)
To: hope
This has probably already been said a 100 times, but if it WAS Rove, the Old Media and sKerry campaign would be yelling it from the mountain tops.
To: Thane_Banquo
Your scenario could be right. But whether CBS used in-house, out-sourced or no "experts," it's clear that they made no serious effort to authenticate, much less to "thoroughly investigate." They are liars and Dan Rather is at the top of that list.
391
posted on
09/10/2004 11:07:05 AM PDT
by
Bonaparte
(and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
To: hoosiermama
Since these are falsified military document a full investigation should begin immediately....WHo emailed them to whom. WHo's finger prints are on the documents etc.... Boy would I like to see some familiar names do time.....I know just wishful thinking. So how/where do we apply pressure to penetrate this?-- How to keep the heat on so the issue can't be buried like so many have?..
392
posted on
09/10/2004 11:31:42 AM PDT
by
Murph
To: ctdonath2
-Eric
393
posted on
09/10/2004 11:50:28 AM PDT
by
E Rocc
To: maryz
but a smaller segment believe that both the DNC and the Kerry campaign were duped by Karl Rove, who would have engineered the flap to embarrass the opposition. LOL! Makes me think of the old saying, "You can't cheat an honest man!"
It makes me think of the Arabs who said that the Israeli's actually engineered 9/11 just to defame Islam.
To: Shermy
The Prowler is very reliable. Much more then danrather/cbs.
395
posted on
09/10/2004 12:50:47 PM PDT
by
tioga
To: Bonaparte
Dan Rather was the same "journalist" who was in an on air "tiff" with Bush 41. This was personal for dannyrather. He was more then ready to volunteer.
396
posted on
09/10/2004 1:16:28 PM PDT
by
tioga
To: mnehrling
Hell, LOL, even if Rove is behind it . . . at least our dirty-trickster is a helluva lot smarter'n their dirty-trickster.
397
posted on
09/10/2004 1:20:06 PM PDT
by
geedee
To: hope
Now, the producer says, there is growing concern inside the building on 57th Street that they may have been suckered by the Kerry campaign. "There is a school of thought here that the Kerry people dumped this in our laps, figuring we'd do the heavy lifting on the story.With great gusto and with no hesitation, I might add.
398
posted on
09/10/2004 2:09:39 PM PDT
by
pfflier
To: tioga
And before that, he did the same thing in a televised Nixon interview back during Watergate, suggesting that people thought he was crook and then saying, "well, sir, what about it?" Or words to that effect. Nixon's reply, as we know, became a virtual touchstone among liberals. "I am not a crook, I am not a crook, I am not a crook..."
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posted on
09/10/2004 2:11:08 PM PDT
by
Bonaparte
(and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
To: pfflier
Docs appeared about six weeks ago ? That would put it about the time the Swifties erupted....
400
posted on
09/10/2004 2:27:52 PM PDT
by
1066AD
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