Posted on 09/08/2004 6:58:09 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er
An excerpt from Steyn's latest has me suspicious that a slaughter of schoolkids is planned for America soon-maybe before the election.
Here is Steyn excerpt:
Could what happened in Beslan happen in the US? Two months ago, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported on a fellow called Mohamad Kamal Elzahabi, a suspected terrorist who'd fought with his fellow jihadi in Chechnya and somehow wound up in Minnesota, where he'd applied for licences to transport hazardous materials and drive school buses.
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Now, what if some less suspicious "white-looking" Chechen, or female, or some local recruit(s) starts driving school bus and and shows for work up one day and rigs a bus full of kids with explosives? Background checks can be defeated with enough planning. I doubt the enemy will make the same mistake twice.
We are catching way too many suspects up here in Minneapolis. Wonder if this is happening in your city also?
I hope all will forgive me if the following sounds cold, but I hope that when they are wailing over the dead, bloody corpse of what that morning had been their dear sweet child they will understand what has to be done.
"I'd love to see him announce from the Vatican a Crusade against a Billion Muslims. Times have changed for Christians, but not Mohammedans."
Not likely from this Pope: http://web.archive.org/web/20030604152818/http://ic.net/~erasmus/RAZ394.HTM
We just don't seem prepared for this possibility.
A new line has been crossed, it seems.
First-the excerpt was beside the point
Two- the link was posted #66 were you too lazy to see it? Are you the town scold?
Three- You need a laxative there Mohommud. You're wound up a little tight.
Its time to prepare now. IMO
Maybe, but I'm not so sure. My confidence in my fellow American, to seek justice, is shaken a bit.
Hope what you say is true. They need to feel fear reciprocated.
The good ol' days are gone.
Maybe the next one.
We use the term "guided chaos" in our class as to mean that a typical fight will have no pre-determined set of moves being used against us and that we must at the same time use whatever we can that works, not necessairly something we are pre-planning.
One drill that amazed me was as follows:
The instructor gave a woman with little training a black marker to signify a knife. She was told to go crazy on the guy accross the room who she was told just raped her little girl. She was told just start swinging and go crazy.
The guy on the other side of the room was a 3rd degree black belt. He was not told what was really coming although he knew something was going to happen.
The woman simply walked up to the guy screamed and started swinging the marker. The black belt guy was covered in black . It was obvious that he would have been cut to ribbons.
The point of the drill was that preplanned defenses do not always work and an unskilled person can do a lot damage to even people with many years of training.
We were all in shock, as was the black belt guy!
Thanks for the ping. Security was one of the main reasons I began homeschooling all those years ago. (A bomb threat and the flippant way the office handled it was the last straw.)
In response to:
"I am to the right of Free Republic, and I teach. By the way, there ARE a number of conservative teachers. You'll just never see or hear them in the media.
A main reason it is not sensible to arm teachers, as I have posted elsewhere, is the responsibility to safeguard a firearm in a room full of children cannot fall to girls in their early 20s with some quick rush training procedure. However I am all for having a good number of key personnel armed."
Agreed, my wife teaches also and though I have taught her how to shoot and protect herself, most young educators wouldn't have the experience and training needed to counterattack. A well trained group of teachers,(like armed forces veterans) with quick access to a weapons vault, could possibly defuse a situation a little faster. Vigilance by educators as well as parents and their children can go along way towards thwarting a situation but a fast response force is needed when things intensify quickly. Fortunately, we live in a small town and things out of the ordinary are noticed fairly quickly, but I do sympathize with the larger Metro areas. It would almost be impossible to recognize a threat before hand...eternal vigilance is the key along with educating our children about the threats that could confront them and action plans for emergencies.
Giving the NEA guns .... I don't know.
That just seems too much like allowing the iranians to have nukes.
Wow, I hadn't thought of that. Ok, arm the students. So a stray teacher here or there gets shot...
They have stopped using schools as polling places in my area because of security issues.
This scenario has happened before, in the 1976 Chowchilla school-bus kidnapping. Drivers are allegedly subject to extensive background checks these days, but the involvement of the education establishment ensures that PC standards are applied, virtually guaranteeing that Muslim jihadist moles or conceivably local fifth columnists could get these jobs.
You are delusional. Your post makes so much common sense that no thinking teacher or educator would follow it.
People defending themselves??? Are you crazy
A teacher shooting a gun??? Guns cause violence - didn't they tell you that??
Don't you know it is always better to succomb to the attacker than to, God Forbid, attack the attacker??
You know this is sarcasm - right????
It is against the law, of course, to bring firearms onto a college campus. It is possible, however, for certain faculty members to do so, with a written waiver from the Chief of Police. I have such a waiver, but it only applies to my vehicle. I have an AK-47 locked in my trunk and a colleague has 2, with one being for use by an especially trusted grad student. One of the doctors at the university hospital routinely carries half a dozen assorted guns in his car, without a waiver. We don't answer to the NEA/K-12 establishment, however.
That is true, that is why you must understand the concepts rather that just perform a set routine by rote. I've notice some fellows a lot more advanced than me get their butts kicked by a junior because something in the attack didn't fit in with their planned defense. Once you have a grip on the concepts then you can react more appropriately in situations like this.
Another factor is that this was done in a classroom setting (I believe), and there is a sense of safety in controlled setting like that. If it was done on the street unexpectedly, he probably would've reacted differently.
I always wondered that myself. I was in public school in a big city in south Florida in the late 1950's through mid 1960's and never came across any such thing, even though we would have been close to the action during the Cuban missile crisis in 1962.
(Another thing I never came across, although you heard about it in the national media, was people acting disrespectful to soldiers returning from Vietnam.)
After seeing how Muslims won't hesitate to strap a bomb onto their own child --- and send him to blow up a few Jews standing at an Israeli bus-stop, it seems pretty likely that this would be an easy way for them to blow up a school of American kids --- one of their fellow students, a Muslim child shows up to class with bombs under his clothes and his parents will detonate it when they please --- the adults are all on the look out for adult Arabs near the school so would be totally unprepared for this.
The US supports the Russian effort in Chechnya, so that would be just one more reason for the Chechens to try something similar here - the atrocity in Beslan could well have laid the groundwork for a similar incident here.
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