Skip to comments."Is There Something Fundamentally Wrong with Muslim Society...?"
Posted on 09/08/2004 5:43:45 AM PDT by LTCJ
... With me now to take a closer look at Muslim reaction to Beslan, Fouad Ajami, director of Middle East studies at Johns Hopkins University.
ZAHN: Let me pose that question.
ZAHN: Is there something fundamentally wrong with Muslim society that continues to spawn these terrorists?
AJAMI: Well, I think this is a question that's haunting ordinary Muslims. ... Ben Wedeman has done a good job giving you a sense of the responses in the Muslim world.
And there was this editorial in one of the leading papers in the Arab world, "Al Asharq Al-Awsat," where a very thoughtful Saudi commentator basically probed the question that you have put forth. Is there something wrong in the modern condition of Islam today? Is there something wrong in the Arab world itself?
ZAHN: Is there?
AJAMI: And I think there is something ... the one answer is to say, Islam is innocent of all this. The other answer is to say, well, look, we have to look very carefully at the conditions of modern Muslims today.
And that's what Sam Huntington once said when he described what he called the bloody borders of the Islamic world, that wherever Islam rubs up against other civilizations, there seems to be trouble. There is something problematic in the Muslim world today, which is the rise of these new preachers. They're not religious. They're actually terrorists...
unless Muslims, mainstream Muslims, ordinary Muslims, establishment Muslims, scholars, rulers, intellectuals and journalists, reclaim the faith, this faith, it has become an instrument of radicalism.
ZAHN: But what evidence have you seen that would suggest that any of those subsets you're talking about are willing to do that? ...
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
Worth reading the transcript and the lead-in interview with Stephen Cohen, professor of Russian studies at New York University...
While I am doubtful of Mr. Ajami's assessment that we might start to see a change in Islam resulting from the Beslan atrocity, part of his wrap-up is true:
"... And even though we talk about diplomacy and we talk about trying to win Muslim hearts and minds, this is a war for Muslims themselves. They must be the ones who weed these radicals out of the faith."
I think he sees it coming about through introspection. I behieve it it will come only as a means to relieve them of the consequences of harboring terrorists. If, that is, we are willing to wage a war worthy of the name. So far, there are a lot of questions lacking honest answers on both sides of the line...
Other than Islam being a cult of Satan...
Is water wet?
when i was a kid I sold empty packets of "dehyrdated H2O - just add water".
Other than it's based on a barbarous, warrior cult...NO!
There is something wrong with the Muslim society only if you believe it is a problem that they like to KILL EVERYBODY ELSE! Heck they even enjoy dying and killing each other.
Yeah, it's a problem. But, it's a problem we can solve by helping to, um... expedite THEIR desire for death.
For "the children", of course. :-)
Quran 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.
Bukhari:V4B52N50The Prophet said, A single endeavor of fighting in Allahs Cause is better than the world and whatever is in it.
Quran 9:112 The Believers fight in Allahs Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.
Quran 9:29 Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.
Quran 8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Quran 8:39So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).
DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE MUSLUM RELIGION IS PEACEFUL, THAT IS HYPE. MUSLUMS WANT TO KILL US, PERIOD!
Oh, but of course...:-)
Especially after what we've seen the past few days.
"...Islam is innocent of all this."
BS; Islam IS THE CAUSE OF ALL THIS, you Muslim schmuck!
The question that keeps troubling me is that if the Imam of the Grand Mosque of Mecca, or the Imam of the Grand Mosque of Rome, do not represent and define Islamic "mainstream," "establishment," "scholars," "rulers," or "intellectuals," then who does?
If the Imam of the largest mosque in Europe calls for the slaughter of Jews and infidels, is that still "radical?" Or does it become "mainstream" when such a sermon is unabashedly broadcast to a million Muslims at a time?
Muslim men are arrogant in conversation, and, when a Muslim man can identify a chatter as a woman, he PM's (private message) her and immediately petitions for sex.
Is it stated anywhere in the Koran that killing those who believe differently is WRONG? If it is, why aren't those passages taught? If it isn't, that makes it a death cult and seals it's doom. Either Islam will succeed and the world will be a living hell or it will be annihilated because of it's unwillingness and inability to coexist.
In other words, it's someone else's fault that Muslims live in poverty under the grinding heel of modern-day totalitarian monarchies and backwards theocracies, so their violence against others is excusable.
I am afraid you're right. Disgusting.
Other than it's based on a barbarous, warrior cult...NO!
Those aren't warriors.
Warriors have something they use for honor.
These are simply bloody-handed cowards and thugs with child-like minds.
And what causes the conditions of modern Muslims? Their pathetic ideology that promotes polygamy, selling and beating of women, an inability to think or reason. If Muslims reached their goal and placed the whole world under the Koran, conditions would be terrible --- but then who would they blame?
That's an oxymoron.
There ain't no such thing as a Muslim Society, just a bunch of cave dwellers driven by a tribal desire to kill, and be sacrificed in the name of their god (lowercase).
Is there something wrong with Islam? Nah, just pissing on children before they rape them and shoot them in the back, but we've got to be sensitive and understand them. Diversity!
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