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GLOBE: BUSH DIDN'T MEET GUARD COMMITMENTS
drudge ^ | 9/7/04

Posted on 09/07/2004 6:12:59 PM PDT by alydar

President Bush fell well short of meeting his military obligation in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War, the BOSTON GLOBE is planning to front on Wednesday, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE.

(Excerpt) Read more at drudgereport.com ...


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To: alydar

yeah, every time Oliphant shows up to defend Kerry, Kerry drops 3 points in the Zell Miller - Reagan Democrats.
Oliphant trys to believe everything that isn't written by him or one of his friends is "tabloid" and therefore not "worth of comment".
That was his argument about the Swift Boats is that it was birthed in the "tabloids".


101 posted on 09/07/2004 7:33:53 PM PDT by WoodstockCat
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To: hansel

That would just blow it up. As it stands now, only the Globe will report this story. Bush commenting on it would get it the lead on all the evening news programs.


102 posted on 09/07/2004 7:39:40 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: All

It seems that the Globe is playing games with words here.

Look at how they word it. Which commanding officer are they talking about. If they are talking about the Commanding officer in Texas....that is simple....BUSH WAS IN ALABAMA. (And last night..Lt.Col John Calhoun came forward and said that he remembers seeing Bush at the base in Alabama. Bush signed in on the sheet that was on Calhoun's desk.)
from Drudge:
"In fact, Bush's unit certified in late 1973 that his service had been "satisfactory" - just four months after Bush's commanding officer wrote that Bush had not been seen at his unit for the previous 12 months."


The pay record does show him at Alabama. It seems that the press wants to use the Texas Guard write ups...and misrepresent what they mean...for the time period when Bush was in Alabama. When Bama Guard records probably show he was there. They are selectively showing certain records..while not showing the others.

If a record shows that I am not in one location..but shows I am at another location on temp duty at that same time...then it is not too hard to see that I was on duty at the second location.

The press is hoping to confuse people who don't understand the military. They keep saying that Bush's records bring up more questions...when they don't.

It is time for Bush to call BS on this crap..point out that his records show he served...Challenged the media on what questions they have..then, in the press conference hand them the sheet...show where it indicates what he is talking about...and then end the press conference by challenging Kerry to release ALL of his military and medical records...and CHALLENGE THE MEDIA TO FILE AN FOI ON KERRY LIKE THEY DID HIM.


103 posted on 09/07/2004 7:41:46 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: rwfromkansas

The drudge piece says that networks are going to bring it up as well.


104 posted on 09/07/2004 7:43:12 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: GROOVY

Kerry committed war atrocities? Are you saying that freedom-defending American soldiers in Vietnam were guilty of war crimes? Some freepers would disagree.


105 posted on 09/07/2004 7:45:12 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: rwfromkansas

You're probably right. I get so angry about all this bs. I might have to turn my TV off for awhile because I'm getting fed up and we still have two months to go.


106 posted on 09/07/2004 7:46:24 PM PDT by hansel
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

I agree


107 posted on 09/07/2004 7:47:43 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: hansel
He hasn't done anything since. He's trying to run as the washington outsider with a military record and Rove et al need to call him out on his pathetic and underachieving insider status pronto.

Damn straight. They need to squash this by explaining it AGAIN and move on to the insider status. Leave Kerry and his ilk stand around and discuss the National Guard by themselves.
108 posted on 09/07/2004 7:48:14 PM PDT by Jaysun (The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action)
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To: Lil'freeper
The Boston Globe? Isn't that one of those supermarket tabloids that runs stories about bat boy and fat celebrities?


109 posted on 09/07/2004 7:48:26 PM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: alydar

Actually, I don't see any of this as bad news. The more the MSM continues to drag up old dirt and show how disingenuous they really are, the more the voters will turn them off and move away from those that the MSM wants them support. Well, that's my theory and I am sticking to it.


110 posted on 09/07/2004 7:49:07 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: alydar

"There they go again!"


111 posted on 09/07/2004 7:50:15 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Go George go!)
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To: smonk
we have to get kerry's dam* records public...all of them with all the crap about bush...whose going to get to the bottom of the F**** records of bad KERRY........going down if we don't the mud is slinging......
112 posted on 09/07/2004 7:51:53 PM PDT by ldish (God save the USA)
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To: Captain Kirk

Does any not think that if only question should be asked about either Bush or Kerry about Viet Nam it should be to Kerry and it should be : Did you really commit war crimes and if not were you lying in 1971 when you said you had?

Sorry, Bush might have been in Alabama and not Texas at one point and some of his records may be missing BUT he did not disgrace his fellow vets while engaged in the war, did not extend the pain and suffering of our POWs under the VC and is not a self-professed war criminal.

Honestly, I think the media is jumping the shark with this because they don't want to ask the REAL questions.


113 posted on 09/07/2004 7:52:06 PM PDT by hansel
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To: alydar
You know, I wouldn't be all too worried about this. Drudge says that the media has chosen tomorrow as designated "Bush National Guard Day." It doesn't take much to figure out they're trying to orchestrate a counterpunch to his convention bounce; what's good for us is that they're not being very smart about it. If they were they'd save this for November 1st; even then there's a good chance it wouldn't resonate, but if they make the National Guard issue the big story of tomorrow then it can't be the big story on election eve less than two months from tomorrow.

I say good, let them push this into the public forefront now, so that when the decisive moment really comes on Nov. 2 no one will care at all, it'll be a thing of the past. In fact, the more "scandals" they "discover" about Bush's past now, the better. Leave us with the opening for an October surprise because there won't be anything left on Bush's record to "expose," and I'm sure the Bush campaign team has something special in mind from Kerry's past.
114 posted on 09/07/2004 7:56:45 PM PDT by Matt32
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To: Gator113
This is good news. First, the "charges" are not new, second GW has never once used his TANG service in his resume, third, the Swifties now sail in open water from this moment on.
115 posted on 09/07/2004 8:00:06 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: Captain Kirk

Not sure if this was sarcasm, but in case it wasn't, Kerry is the one who made the claim about war crimes while in Vietnam. It is this context that is necessary to understand the above post.


116 posted on 09/07/2004 8:00:37 PM PDT by Federalist_In_Michigan (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap. -RWR)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

"His commander could not have have seen or rated Bush, for Bush was TDY to the Alabama ANG. "

EXACTLY.

From looking at Drudge..it seems the press will try...with out evidence...to claim that Bush should have faced punitive action.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT HE MISSED DUTY. So there would be no punitive action needed.
They keep trying to claim that BUSH WAS NOT IN TEXAS in october of 72. DUH....his Records indicate that he WAS IN ALABAMA!

Even the AP admits that Bush had permission to train with the Alabama unit in September, October and November 1972.

Seems that the press is is manipulating the presentations of the records.


117 posted on 09/07/2004 8:00:42 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: Texasforever

It's good to hope for all of that, but I doubt that's how things will go. But I'll pray for that to happen.


118 posted on 09/07/2004 8:02:17 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Texasforever


Don't miss this.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209600/posts


119 posted on 09/07/2004 8:03:35 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: alydar
Should have been posted with a *yawn* alert.

Old media/old news bump.
120 posted on 09/07/2004 8:03:54 PM PDT by Antoninus (Abortion; Euthanasia; Fetal Stem Cell Research; Human Cloning; Homo Marriage - NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES)
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