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The text of a letter former President Carter sent to Zell Miller over the weekend
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/ ^ | Josh Marshall

Posted on 09/07/2004 2:05:44 PM PDT by VMI70

The text of a letter former President Carter sent to Zell Miller over the weekend ...

You seem to have forgotten that loyal Democrats elected you as mayor and as state senator. Loyal Democrats, including members of my family and me, elected you as lieutenant governor and as governor. It was a loyal Democrat, Lester Maddox, who assigned you to high positions in the state government when you were out of office. It was a loyal Democrat, Roy Barnes, who appointed you as U.S. Senator when you were out of office. By your historically unprecedented disloyalty, you have betrayed our trust. Great Georgia Democrats who served in the past, including Walter George, Richard Russell, Herman Talmadge, and Sam Nunn disagreed strongly with the policies of Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, and me, but they remained loyal to the party in which they gained their public office. Other Democrats, because of philosophical differences or the race issue, like Bo Callaway and Strom Thurmond, at least had the decency to become Republicans.

Everyone knows that you were chosen to speak at the Republican Convention because of your being a “Democrat,” and it’s quite possible that your rabid and mean-spirited speech damaged our party and paid the Republicans some transient dividends.

Perhaps more troublesome of all is seeing you adopt an established and very effective Republican campaign technique of destroying the character of opponents by wild and false allegations. The Bush campaign’s personal attacks on the character of John McCain in South Carolina in 2000 was a vivid example. The claim that war hero Max Cleland was a disloyal American and an ally of Osama bin Laden should have given you pause, but you have joined in this ploy by your bizarre claims that another war hero, John Kerry, would not defend the security of our nation except with spitballs. (This is the same man whom you described previously as “one of this nation's authentic heroes, one of this party's best-known and greatest leaders -- and a good friend.")

I, myself, never claimed to have been a war hero, but I served in the navy from 1942 to 1953, and, as president, greatly strengthened our military forces and protected our nation and its interests in every way. I don’t believe this warrants your referring to me as a pacificist.

Zell, I have known you for forty-two years and have, in the past, respected you as a trustworthy political leader and a personal friend. But now, there are many of us loyal Democrats who feel uncomfortable in seeing that you have chosen the rich over the poor, unilateral preemptive war over a strong nation united with others for peace, lies and obfuscation over the truth, and the political technique of personal character assassination as a way to win elections or to garner a few moments of applause. These are not the characteristics of great Democrats whose legacy you and I have inherited.

I contacted President Carter's office for comment and his press spokesperson Deanna Congileo told me that the letter was a private communication and that President Carter would not be issuing further comment.

-- Josh Marshall http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: carter; jimmycarter; miller; zell; zellmiller
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To: KellyAdmirer

KA, jimmy carter is full of himself. A self important piece of llama pellet is what he really is. Anything to get his name in print.


141 posted on 09/07/2004 2:39:27 PM PDT by tillacum (Poor kerry, he's told so many flip-flops, he thinks he's running for president, is he or isn't he?)
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To: Brad Cloven

"I didn't think we were allowed to post from The Onion."

my nominee for the best line of the day...


142 posted on 09/07/2004 2:39:40 PM PDT by Keith (JOHN KERRY...IN VIOLATION OF ARTICLE III SECTION 3 OF THE US CONSTITUTION)
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To: Texas Federalist

Thanks for the update Tex.


143 posted on 09/07/2004 2:41:09 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: VMI70

Atop all of his other shortcomings and afflictions, Jimmah is now suffering from Zell shock.


144 posted on 09/07/2004 2:41:17 PM PDT by ngc6656
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To: VMI70
I don’t believe this warrants your referring to me as a pacificist.

Someday, I'd like to meet Jimmy Carter, walk up to him, punch him square in the face, and then taunt him bu saying things like, "Whatcha gonna do now, Pacifist Boy? Huh? Gonna hit me back? Huh? Huh?"

145 posted on 09/07/2004 2:41:35 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (McBride fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty bag filled with vegetable soup.)
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To: VMI70; ForGod'sSake
"Bill, I have known you for forty-two years and have, in the past, respected you as a trustworthy political leader and a personal friend. But now, there are many of us loyal Democrats who feel uncomfortable in seeing that you have chosen the rich over the poor, unilateral preemptive war over a strong nation united with others for peace, lies and obfuscation over the truth, and the political technique of personal character assassination as a way to win elections or to garner a few moments of applause. These are not the characteristics of great Democrats whose legacy you and I have inherited."

There, fixed.

...just addressed it to the right person.

146 posted on 09/07/2004 2:41:47 PM PDT by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: VMI70
Go find some communist dictator to snuggle up to, Jimmah!

That's what you and your "loyal" democRATs are intent on doing anyway.

147 posted on 09/07/2004 2:41:50 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: VMI70
Boo fricking Hoo!

What an ugly screed by a mean spirited little man.

148 posted on 09/07/2004 2:43:02 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: VMI70

How did the text of this letter end up in the media? Also, since when did the Bush campaign compare Max Cleland to Osama bin Laden? Looks like Dem spin to me.


149 posted on 09/07/2004 2:43:21 PM PDT by ContraryMary
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To: VMI70
Can't stand Carter - "the failed president."

I hope we Repubs never forget the limb that Zell went out on to help us. In addition to being grateful for such actions, we need to encourage them, and show they pay off. Let's not do what the Dems did to our own "Benedict Arnold" Jeffords.

150 posted on 09/07/2004 2:44:19 PM PDT by jporcus
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To: rescue

Following Carter's "logic" (*ahem*), we would have to applaud the dolts who followed Hitler and condemn those who worked in the resistance at peril of their and their families' lives.

I am not biting into that cyanide pill.


151 posted on 09/07/2004 2:44:24 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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To: Mark in the Old South
I'll not argue with that, and I sure as hell do not intend to defend him, although I do remember Jimmah arguing for the raise, but against any other appropriations for defense.

In spite of everything else the old socialist bastard was, he was for any thing that he thought was a give-away program.

I assure you of one thing, I have absolutely no regard for Jimmah Cottah; I think he's a socialist pinko and I still can't believe he was a nuclear officer in the US Navy.

For that matter, I can't see how the hell he ever got elected as Prez, since no one I've talked to since will admit to voting for him.

152 posted on 09/07/2004 2:44:32 PM PDT by OldSmaj (Islam is a false religion. It's adherents and followers are doomed to hell.)
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To: chs68

I was wondering which dem appointed that nutjob (Ramsey Clark). Thanks for the info.


153 posted on 09/07/2004 2:46:40 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: VMI70

Let me boil this letter down so you folks can understand it.

Dear Zell. :

We made you boy. We own you. The Dems own me because they made me and they own you. Who the hell do you think you are that you can become a patriot overnight instead of a Democrat. There are no Americans only Dimocrats and Republicans. we'll get you boy,we'll break you.

I bet Jimmy had his Klan sheet on when he wrote this.


154 posted on 09/07/2004 2:46:41 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: VMI70
This Jimmah "Kissing Castro's Arse" Carter, right?
155 posted on 09/07/2004 2:46:59 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: VMI70
Open Letter to Senator Zell Miller

Dear Senator Miller:

As a former (and sixth (at least) generation native) Georgian, I write to you to support your recent statements at the Republican National Convention.

Like you, I believe the Democrat party has abandoned its historic principles.

I was especially incensed at President Carter’s recent personal letter to you in which he invoked the names of prominent Georgia Democrats of the past in an apparent effort to cause you shame.

You have nothing to be ashamed of. President Carter’s lousy record, in office and afterwards, should cause him shame. Alas, he seems shameless. I voted for the man twice, partly out of Georgia pride.

I believe that Hoke Smith, Carl Vinson, Walter F. George, Marvin Griffin, Ellis Arnall, and Richard Russell are turning over in their graves at what has become of today’s Democrat party. They, like you, did not hesitate to call a spade a spade. Men of their stature applaud your speech.

I, humbly, add my own applause.
156 posted on 09/07/2004 2:47:08 PM PDT by The Great Yazoo (Hey, Hey J-K-F, How Many Vets did you Diss Today!)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Billions of 2002 dollars, average annual military expendure for four year term

Harry $228.0
Ike-1 399.1
Ike-2 352.7
King Arthur & Sir Gallahad 360.0
Sir Gallahad 387.7
Dick 389.7
Dick & Gerry 297.5
Doofus 292.9
Ronaldus Magnus-1 351.3
Ronaldus Magnus-2 421.6
Pops 393.8
Slick-1 331.6
Slick-2 303.0
Hussein-Bane 348.9

Peanut farmer presided over the lowest period of average annual military spending since the end of WWII.


157 posted on 09/07/2004 2:47:21 PM PDT by Ironclad (O Tempora! O Mores!)
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To: VMI70

HE cancelled the B-1Bomber program..... He's gone senile...


158 posted on 09/07/2004 2:47:27 PM PDT by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (I have left this blank for a reason....)
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To: VMI70
destroying the character of opponents by wild and false allegations.

Jimmy seems to have no concept of the difference between facts and name calling, and what good is loyalty if it is blind?

The difference between Senator Zell Miller's list of Kerry's votes, and Michael Moore's (who sat next to carter in carter's presidential box at the democratic convention), Fahrenheit 911 is same as the difference between  the history channel's Russia: Land of the Tsars and "SpongeBob SquarePants".

159 posted on 09/07/2004 2:48:15 PM PDT by antonia ("Democracy is the worst type of government, excepting all others." ~ Churchill)
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To: All

Zell Miller should send President Carter a very short letter. Two words:

Thank You .....


160 posted on 09/07/2004 2:48:43 PM PDT by mpreston
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