Highlights of the VVAW FBI files and John Kerry Section 7 (October 1971)

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[stockpirate]

Highlights of the VVAW FBI files and John Kerry Section 7 (October 1971)

1. “On September 30, 1971, Robert Malone, Chief of Police, University of Nevada, advised Kerry’s speech at the University was sponsored by the Associated Students of the University of Nevada, and that he was paid $1,200.00, including expenses for his appearance.” Kerry is paid for VVAW speeches, pg 25

2. VVAW pickets restaurant because owner refuses to serve long haired, barefoot and dirty veterans in his place of business. It is also noted that the organization encourages the use of narcotics. VVAW pickets restaurant, pg 28-29

3. VVAW distributes literature at an event that is used to collect intelligence on military tactics and methods in Vietnam. Considering the fact that the VVAW has meetings with the North Vietnam Communists and VVAW members travel to Moscow and Hanoi, this is a very serious matter. VVAW collects military intelligence concerning US tactics and methods in Vietnam War. Pg. 51-57

4. Joseph Urgo, Second Vice-President of VVAW is in North Vietnam August 13, 1971. VP of VVAW in North Vietnam, pg. 92

5. VVAW attorney was in North Vietnam on November 22,1970 and returned with letters from US POS’s. VVAW went to NV, pg. 96

6. Throughout this section of the FBI documents is a constant link between the VVAW’s activities and Communist groups or Communist front groups in the USA. Communist groups, pg. 86

7. VVAW shows a Communist propaganda film “entitled, ‘Evil Hour’, which depicted the effects of United States military actions on children in Vietnam..” Propaganda movie, pg. 101

8. Randy Floyd, President of the VVAW at the University of Texas. to speak in Oslo Norway concerning US war crimes in Vietnam. War crimes Oslo, Norway, pg. 115-116

9. FBI document reveals that, “all members if the VVAW who had traveled to Finland, Moscow, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR), England…..” VVAW members travel to Moscow and have pictures attached to their mid-section of alleged atrocities in Indo-China, pg. 117-118

10. Speakers at a VVAW rally include Socialist/Communists advocating anti American propaganda. Communist groups speakers, pg. 132-139

11. Again the VVAW is using a Communist front organization of the Communist Party USA, in a rally, the YWLL. Communist groups, pg. 142

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[Americanwolf]

he came back to post 130 posted more ranting.. I will see if he bites on that.

[Darksheare]

I think he's largely confused and likely to bite at anyone in his path.
His nonsensical post 130 is truly weird.
Almost like he's trying to deny his previous posts in this thread.

[Americanwolf]

So are you admiting your a fraud?

[Darksheare]

What apology?
Yours is still MIA.

[Americanwolf]

I am a Vet myself and mean no disrespect to fellow Veterans, but if you came here posing as a vet and you are not shame on you. There are many who find that highly insulting. Which if you were actually a vet I think you would have understood that already. Once again if I am incorrect I will apologize.

[Admin Moderator]

Regarding notes, they're not being ignored, but have been passed upstairs.

Thanks for your patience.

[Darksheare]

Understood.

Holding pattern confirmed.

[Calpernia]

How is a VET donating to a VET organization NOT a personal donation?????

You are implying/assuming he is making the donation under his business name vs. his name.

[Pardon the bandwidth theft King of Zings.]

[Americanwolf]

Thanks for the notification... :)

[StarCMC]

Uh-huh -- a live one!

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

"I am still trying to figure out his response to me in post #130"

OK....try this....

IF CHIEFTAN HAS DECEIVED THE SWIFTEES AND FUNNELED DISGUISED NON-PERSONAL MONEY TO THEM, IT IS NOT THEIR DOING.

Given my exchange with him, a case can be now made to that effect.

I know this offends most of you, but remember.....neutralizing the Swiftees is the #1 goal of kerry's campaign, and the new goon-squad including his old group of "dog-hunter" veterans.

What you think of me is unimportant to me.

[Darksheare]

"IF CHIEFTAN HAS DECEIVED THE SWIFTEES AND FUNNELED DISGUISED NON-PERSONAL MONEY TO THEM, IT IS NOT THEIR DOING."

Elaborate.

[Calpernia]

Chief, are the donations top the SwiftVets under your business name or personal name?

[Darksheare]

I don't see what Violin survivor's problem is.
527 law doesn't prevent businesses from donating to 527's as long as there is no collusion between the campaign and the 527's.

[Calpernia]

Actually, Chief,

You DON'T even need to answer that. Continue as NORMAL; BUT if you make donations from THIS POINT on, do it under your name. Not your business name.

Otherwise, the SwiftVets can get in trouble for running their ads.

REPEAT, from this point on, make all donations under your personal name.

[Americanwolf]

Ok now that you have cleared the Mud up there a little bit.

As you state after you converstation with him a case can now be made that a business is contributing to a 527...

#1. I don't see anywhere in the thread that he has stated that the business is making the donation to the swiftee's
#2. There is nothing legally binding about the conversation so I would like to see the Kerry campaign make it stand up in a court of law.
#3. There Kerry campaign would have to be pretty desperate to monitor places like this for information like that.
#4. As soon as anything like that would be opened up on swift vets, it would open an investigation on all 527's
and sorros would have to account where his money is coming from for his donations, moveon.org would have to disclose their donors, and with all the idiot liberal rock stars that contributed that would have to be returned because their money is made by a business venture, and donated to a politcal campaign.

[Casloy]

Ya know, sometimes justice takes a long time coming, but when it comes it sure is sweet. I been waiting for this clown Kerry to get what's coming to him since 1971. Thanks to all who have been posting this stuff, it's a lot of work but it sure makes for good reading.

[Calpernia]

Thank you for the heads up on that issue.

You could have be NICER and not such an antagonous.

None of us knew what you were talking about. And you showed your amusement of that.

Problem solved. But you are stay here at FR will be shadowed by kitties.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

"Chief, are the donations top the SwiftVets under your business name or personal name?"

It doesn't matter! He has said what he said......and inplied what he implied.

Fortunately, a reasonable person would HAVE to consider the sentence I typed in all caps.

[Darksheare]

*swoosh, three points*