Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers

To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks.. My husband was a kind a gentle man. He carried many scars emotionally. He really loathed John Kerry.

121 posted on 09/06/2004 10:59:16 PM PDT by Lovergirl (Bush/Cheney / 4 more years)

He loathed Jane Fonda too.

122 posted on 09/06/2004 11:02:08 PM PDT by Lovergirl (Bush/Cheney / 4 more years)

"I cry often over what he went thru. He is with God now and has Peace."

I'm sorry for your loss of your husband, he was surely a good man and a brave soldier. God's peace and blessings to you.

123 posted on 09/06/2004 11:02:35 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))

To: Interesting Times

Excellent find! Thanks from a Vietnam vet.

His testimony at wintersoldier was a lie, and it was coerced. This must be published in all available media.

Those who lied willingly will never come forth, but others may have been deceived or coerced.

124 posted on 09/06/2004 11:05:36 PM PDT by zot (GWB -- four more years!)

To: Interesting Times; Bob J; Jim Robinson; The Shrew; Nick Danger; diotima

You've done it! Applause and congratulations Interesting Times! You make us PROUD! I have already sent off part of this article and links to our Seattle radio station. BTTT

WinterSoldier.com BUMP!

125 posted on 09/06/2004 11:09:04 PM PDT by Libertina (Thank God we have President Bush in the White House.)

To: Interesting Times; CyberCowboy777; Chad Fairbanks

This is BIG! Pings, please, Cyber :) BTTT

126 posted on 09/06/2004 11:09:46 PM PDT by Libertina (Thank God we have President Bush in the White House.)

To: Interesting Times

I appreciate very much the work you've been doing with this. I don't think I ever realized how bad Kerry actually was.

It does my heart good to see this guy Pitkin clear his concience on this subject. I like it that the vets are having a chance to give Kerry some massive pay-back. If as I suspect, Kerry's role in that meeting where assassinations were discussed, does come out in the next few weeks, I don't see how it could help but end his political career.

That would be very fitting. This man does not deserve to hold an honored position in our government.

Do to Kerry's actions, many Vietnam vets lives were literally ruined. I can't imagine anything more fitting than for Kerry to be disgraced nationally, known for all time as the communist North Vietnamese shill that he was.

Thank God for the Swift Boat Vets. Thank God for people like you, who have the energy to do what you are doing.

Great job. Keep up the good work.

127 posted on 09/06/2004 11:14:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)

Really appreciate this ping.
Heartwrenching story.

128 posted on 09/06/2004 11:14:43 PM PDT by b9 ("I'm mad as ZELL!" ::: Howlin:::)

To: Interesting Times; All

To read the latest on the Franchurian Candidate's bizzare exploits, click the picture, goto "last," and work backwards:

Take a look at these three short video clips, especially the last one. You will walk away with a heavy heart.

POW'S TELL ABOUT TORTURE

129 posted on 09/06/2004 11:16:19 PM PDT by backhoe

Thanks for the MEGA-PING. I don't answer regular pings.

Great report.

130 posted on 09/06/2004 11:18:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)

To: Interesting Times

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinAff

Steve Pitkin Affadavit, August 31, 2004

September 6, 2004 -- **BREAKING** In Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers,
Scott Swett tells the story of a former VVAW member and participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation
who states that John Kerry and others pressured him to give false testimony
about American atrocities in Vietnam.
After more than 33 years, Pitkin is the first Winter Soldier "witness"
to file a legal affadavit regarding that event...

Steve Pitkin DD-214
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/graphics/PitkinDD214.jpg

Steve Pitkin WSI testimony
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinWSI

Steve Pitkin WSI video clips -- February 1, 1971 (4:16, 1.6MB)
http://www.wintersoldier.com/video/pitkin2.wmv

These url's need broad distribution ASAP!

131 posted on 09/06/2004 11:19:48 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOUR YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)

To: Interesting Times

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1208909/posts?page=131#131

This is what I posting on "other boards"

Enough to get attention

They won't read a story, they will go straight to the affadavit

132 posted on 09/06/2004 11:22:29 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOUR YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)

Well said, I agree. He has spent his time in hell, and has redeemed himself by exposing the lies. Late found, but guts, nonetheless.

133 posted on 09/06/2004 11:33:16 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota--I'm ALL FOR Global Warming!)

To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

FYI I'm watching the Toledo Blade reporters on Hannity and Colmes...The Times exaggerated their reporting on these 18 who committed atrocities "to commomplace"...shades of Kerry...(Colmes didn't get the report he was wanting)

134 posted on 09/06/2004 11:49:39 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)

To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; MeekOneGOP; Smartass; Happy2BMe; devolve; Grampa Dave; onyx; potlatch; ...

135 posted on 09/06/2004 11:56:07 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)

Always a place for that posting on every thread.

136 posted on 09/06/2004 11:58:43 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)

To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

They won't read a story, they will go straight to the affadavit

Lots of people read stories. Many stories are posted here every day, and people do in fact read them.

The story is the key item here. The affadavit and other materials exist to support the story. If you're going to post links on every thread, please include the story which is the central point of the whole thing.

Thanks, I.T.

137 posted on 09/06/2004 11:58:56 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)

The communists infiltrated and eventually took over leadership of the VVAW in the 70s....The communists are great "organizers" and know how to use propaganda...They take a legitimate cause like civil rights and turn it into the direction they want it to go.

I do not believe being anti war is an illegitimate cause(thouh I disagree)..but the communists and socialists come in and change it into something more..It becomes the symbol for ideas I deplore and uses slogans that I despise..

The anti war protests here had a variety of people attending and it did not seem to matter to them that the buses were chartered, plans were made by Socialists...The same is true of many anti Bush organizations...there is a tie to international "progressives"..

There are socialists, communists and the useful idiots.We have a lot of useful idiots in the US.

The reds are not dead..They just organize under new names.

138 posted on 09/07/2004 12:08:40 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)

To: Interesting Times

Saved for reference.

139 posted on 09/07/2004 12:11:50 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)

To: Interesting Times

September 6, 2004 -- **BREAKING** In Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers, Scott Swett tells the story of a former VVAW member and participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation who states that John Kerry and others pressured him to give false testimony about American atrocities in Vietnam. After more than 33 years, Pitkin is the first Winter Soldier "witness" to file a legal affadavit regarding that event...

My name is Steve Pitkin, age 20, from Baltimore. I served with the 9th Division from May of '69 until I was airvaced in July of '69. I'll testify about the beating of civilians and enemy personnel, destruction of villages, indiscriminate use of artillery, the general racism and the attitude of the American GI toward the Vietnamese. I will also talk about some of the problems of the GIs toward one another and the hassle with officers.

-- Steve Pitkin, Winter Soldier Investigation, February 1, 1971.

Steve Pitkin Affadavit, August 31, 2004

John F. Kerry
Timeline of a traitor.
Click Here

Kerry's disrespect in 1971 to USA Symbols Video

Windows Media .......... Real Player .......... Quick Time .......... AOL

Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense
arabnews press release 25 August 2004
NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.

Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66
- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam.
The only Vietnamese he ever met was
when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.

John Kerry's explanation:
"He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

Free online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it online right now.

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

NEW:
“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW
CLICK HERE

Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969:

"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope,
you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communist."

Joe Moore, Can Tho Airfield 550th Signal Company

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

Steve Pitkin Affadavit, August 31, 2004

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinAff

John F. Kerry Timeline of a traitor

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html

Kerry's disrespect in 1971
to USA Symbols Video

Windows Media
http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/medals.wmv

Real Player
http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/medals.rm

Quick Time
http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/medals.mov

AOL
http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/medals.mpg

Send this url for the online "The New Soldier" version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/

Send this url for the Stolen Honor website

http://www.stolenhonor.com/

140 posted on 09/07/2004 12:16:09 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOUR YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)

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