C-SPAN's "Military in the 21st Century" . . . . Did Anyone Else Watch?

[MJY1288]

I watched it and I thought it was extremely interesting. Do you remember that guys name or his Web Site Address?

[MJY1288]

C_Span has on their schedule, his name is Thomas P.M. Barnett

[MrChips]

No, sorry. I don't. Yes, interesting. But I could not follow it all. Too overwhelming. But, his "It's all about sex" thesis I found especially interesting. Sure does simplify things.

[NicknamedBob]

Check it out.

Global Transaction Strategy [author of the Pentagon's New Map #3 at Amazon]

[demlosers]

Yes, the control of women is the botom line.

That's what they are really fighting about.

[Vermont Lt]

I was working late, and I had it on. Very fascinating. I thought his slide show and noises were tedious, but the overall content was excellent.

[michaelt]

His website is thomasbarnett.com or something close to that.

[MrChips]

Thanks. It says By Thomas P.M. Barnett and Henry H. Gaffney Jr. . . . and I think I saw Gaffney on CSPAN the other day in a "debate" with Gary Hart, and Gaffney was brilliant.

[ampat]

I caught the last 15 minutes. Found myself glued to the tv. I thought he made a lot of sense. I'm retired Navy. I like these guys who, apparently, are very smart and do their homework. Much better than all the "experts" we see daily on news shows.

[NicknamedBob]

"Think of their attitude toward women. Think of the liberation of women in Afghanistan. Thus, it all boils down to sex."

Actually, I believe his interpretation was, that to enter the global market competitively, you had to free the women from bondage. This is rather anathema to the Islamists, but I say GOOD!!! And what is good for the women there, will be good for the rest of the world, as well.

[Master of Orion]

I saw it too. Very interesting with respect to the sex aspect. We're going to have to drag them into the new millenium kicking and screaming about their rights to subjugate women.

He also mentioned this website.

National Intelligence Council
http://www.cia.gov/nic/NIC_home.html

[NicknamedBob]

One point he made, that you might have missed, was that once an officer reached what he called "flag" rank, that he should be no longer simply a part of his originating service, but become a multi-service expert.

Did you catch that? And do you have an opinion to share about it?

[MrChips]

Well, yes, but the "It's all about sex" line was his, by which he meant not only the liberation of women, but the attendant loosening up of Muslim attitudes toward sex. In other words, they fear the removal of the burka or the veil is tantamount to the opening of Pandora's box or the eating of the apple by Eve. And that is a difficult problem for the West. Is it, indeed, the root cause of all the conflict now going on?

[ampat]

While the trust of the presentation was transformation of the military, in reponse to a question asked by a muslim, Mr Barnett stated that the "western decadence" is what really scares the Islamic world, not democracy. That seems to make one hell of a case against hollywood and their like, the aclu, liberals,etc. Bottom line; the current democratic party is not good for America.

[BallyBill]

I saw some of it. The comments about women in the workforce the freedom and power it gives them being what really upsets muslims, was quite interesting.

[Leto]

I caught his presentation while channel surfing last night.

His take on the WOT and the type of forces, role of allies was fascinating. I checked out his web site. He is leaning towards voting for Kerry ( Scoop Jackson Lib from RI?).

Here is a link to his web site, well worth a look:

http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/

[ampat]

Becoming a multi-service expert has been in the mill now for about two decades (one ticket needing punching is joint duty (tour of duty with another service)). I guess he wants it expanded a lot more. He also mentioned parts of the military acting more like the Coast Guard which has both military as well as policing duties. Now that's a hard nut (paradigm shift) to crack.

[PPHSFL]

I caught it last night after tiring of hurricane coverage. Extremely interesting to watch.

[joesnuffy]

I disagree about the Muslims clinging to a 'fundamentalist' past...when Islam is distilled down to it's purest form...you have what is described as 'fundamentalist' past.....they don't 'cling' to it per se...it is what Islam is all about...it will never go away as long as there is Islam...

This watered down version of 'moderate' Islam will never over play what is coming out of the wellspring of Islam...Mecca and Medina... The Wahabists style is true Islam and its taught in the language the Imam and Mullahs demand for true scholars of Islam..

Moderate Islam is an effective 'Trojan Horse' tricking the western nations into allowing them in
to buy up property invest in business be appointed to positions of power within govt and institutions...where they can begin the erosion of the host.....it is a saprocitic relationship to be sure...

Once the Mosques and Islamic Centers and sufficient rural property for summer camps have been acquired...then the movement ...into the host... of real Muslims begins...

And when they have corrupted enough politicians and taken over enough institutions...beguiled the populace demanding to be accepted for the sake of diversity...and able to label anyone against them as intolerant and are able to silence or jail any and all critics...they will make their move...

They will have won the day the people put fundamental Islam on a par with fundamental Christianity...

imo