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One person, one vote? Not always Some cast two ballots in a single election
K.C.Star ^ | sept 5 2004 | GREG REEVES

Posted on 09/05/2004 6:05:26 AM PDT by bad company

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One person, one vote? Not always Some cast two ballots in a single election By GREG REEVES The Kansas City Star

In today's often tight elections, every vote counts. But a Kansas City Star investigation has found that for some people, locally and across Missouri, their vote counts double — because they voted twice in the same election.

Some vote in Kansas, cross the state line and vote again in Missouri. Others appear to be voting in two different Missouri counties.

Either way, it's a crime. In Missouri, casting two separate ballots in the same election is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine. It can also result in federal charges.

“I was wrong in what I did,” said James D. Scherzer, an attorney who acknowledged to the newspaper that he voted in Kansas City and Kansas City, Kan., in the August 2000 primary election.

Then he did it again in elections in November 2000, August 2002 and November 2002.

The Star's investigation uncovered more double voters, and records suggest there could be more than 300 statewide. The exact number is impossible to determine because many counties have shredded their poll books, as allowed under state law, and state computer files are rife with data errors.

Election officials said findings show that the voting system is vulnerable to fraud and that it's a particularly serious threat in a time of razor-thin election margins.

“Election fraud is a crime against democracy and against all honest voters,” said Matt Blunt, Missouri's secretary of state and the state's chief election officer.

Of the more than 300 potential cases of vote fraud in 2000 and 2002, The Star found about 150 in St. Louis or St. Louis County, 60 in the Kansas City area — including three dozen in Kansas City itself — and the rest scattered across the state.

The total number of cases could be even higher.

Anyone registered under a slightly different name or date of birth in two places would escape detection in the newspaper's analysis of voter registration databases in Missouri and Kansas. The study only flagged people registered in two places under exactly the same names and dates of birth.

The figure may be smaller, on the other hand, because the state computer files contain many errors that show people voting who did not actually vote.

Kansas City records show how difficult it is to pin down an exact number.

Of the city's three dozen potential double-voting cases, only 18 occurred in counties that still had poll books on hand.

Of those 18 cases, 13 persons did not actually vote in Kansas City. They were listed incorrectly in the voter registration database because they or someone else had signed the wrong line in the poll book, or because election workers had scanned the wrong line after the election. Documents for two other voters were not found.

The three remaining names, including Scherzer, the Kansas City lawyer, led to poll book signatures that showed those voters had cast ballots in Kansas City. Their signatures appeared identical to those in poll books in Kansas for the same elections.

Those three voters:

• Leslie E. McIntosh, a retired railroad worker who owns property in Kansas City and Kansas City, Kan., said he voted in both cities in November 2000 and November 2002.

“I own property and pay taxes in both places. I feel like I have the right,” said McIntosh, 67. But he pointed out he only voted for president in one place.

McIntosh, who owns a home in the 3600 block of Norton Avenue in Kansas City and a building with a pool hall on North Fifth Avenue in Kansas City, Kan., said he did not intend to do any wrong.

• Prairie Village businesswoman Lorraine E. Goodrich, 39, who said the issue for her was helping Bartle Hall. She wanted to support the hotel and restaurant tax increase on the Kansas City ballot in November 2002.

“I felt very strongly about it,” said Goodrich, who owned a staffing agency in an office at 912 Baltimore Ave. and is registered to vote in both states. “I certainly felt more strongly about that than anything that goes on in Kansas.

“A lot of things happened in Missouri that I wanted to have an opinion about.”

So she cast an advance ballot in Johnson County, then crossed the state line to go to the polls near her downtown business address, records show.

“I'm trying to think what spin I can put on this,” said Goodrich, who promotes businesspeople meeting in a party atmosphere, which is called a “marty” — a combination of the words meeting and party. She describes herself as Kansas City's “marty diva.”

“I probably shouldn't have voted in Kansas,” Goodrich said. “That was a mistake. Whoops! Oh my God, I'm going to get in so much trouble, aren't I?”

• Scherzer, 68, who said he acted on his own with no particular motive.

“I don't have some rationale, or a highfalutin story,” he said.

Scherzer, who has law offices in Kansas City and Kansas City, Kan., said he expected to lose his law licenses in both states or see them suspended over the matter.

“They hold attorneys to a high standard,” Scherzer said. “You just can't do something this wrong and then say, ‘I didn't know any better.'”

Scherzer graduated from the University of Missouri-Kansas City law school in 1981 after a career in the Navy.

“I have everything on the line by virtue of doing this — everything to lose and nothing to gain,” he said.

Crossing the state line wasn't the only way to apparently vote twice, The Star found.

In mid-Missouri, the name of Glenn R. Jourdon, a business executive and figure in the Missouri insurance industry, was signed in poll books in both Cole and Camden counties in two elections in 2002, The Star found.

Jourdon, a former chief financial investigator for the state Department of Insurance, said that if he voted twice, it was accidental.

“I'd almost say I don't know how I possibly could have done it,” said Jourdon. “But there's no telling.”

Jourdon said he has homes in Four Seasons, Mo., Jefferson City — about 50 miles away — and Las Vegas. “I travel all the time.”

County clerks in Cole and Camden counties referred Jourdon's case to prosecutors after The Star asked them for copies of his apparent signatures from poll books. After a review by the secretary of state's office — which said the Jourdon signatures in poll books appeared similar — sheriff's officers are investigating the case. No charges have been filed.

Of the 150 potential double voters in the St. Louis area, more than 100 voted both in St. Louis County and the city in 2000 or 2002, according to the state database. Several dozen more voted in neighboring counties, and in St. Louis County or the city, according to the database.

Information for the St. Louis area in the state computer file, however, is especially corrupt. For example, nearly 15,000 voter names appear with no date of birth or dates before 1880. With so many errors, many of the voters listed as having voted in two places in the St. Louis area may actually have voted in only one.

A state audit in May found 24,063 persons registered in St. Louis who were dead, registered somewhere else, convicted of a felony or listed as living at a vacant lot.

Cracks in the booth

Local election officials said they don't think the problem of double-voting is widespread. Dan Seligson, editor of Electionline.org, which provides nonpartisan information about election reform, said fraudulent absentee ballots seem much more common.

“We live in a country where it's hard enough to get people to vote once,” Seligson said.

But people who vote twice still give local election officials nightmares.

“Sad to say, but if someone wants to defraud the system, they're going to be able to find a way,” said Sharon Turner Buie, Democratic director of the Kansas City election board.

It's unfair to other voters when that happens, said Pat Rahija, Wyandotte County election commissioner.

“Men and women have fought for our freedom for us to be able to vote, and to me, it's a precious right,” Rahija said. “It shakes people's faith in the integrity of the system that people will abuse this right.”

The chief election officers of Missouri and Kansas acknowledge that election operations are in need of major reform.

One problem: Thousands of people who have moved are registered to vote in two places, and a hodgepodge of databases makes it difficult to track them down and remove them.

But they say that change is coming.

The 2002 Help America Vote Act promises to pump millions of dollars into upgrading election equipment and data in the two states, they say.

That will go a long way toward beefing up vote-fraud prevention checks already in place, said Kansas Secretary of State Ron Thornburgh.

“Number one, the database will be better,” he said. “The raw data within the system will be more accurate.”

The Missouri secretary of state's office is working on a voter registration database under the vote act.

The new system will link the office with all 116 local election jurisdictions in Missouri as well as the state Departments of Revenue, Health and Corrections, Blunt said.

“This system will provide an accurate and up-to-date list of registered voters,” he said. “It will also assist local officials in their efforts to remove duplicate voters.”

None of those efforts will stop bistate voters like those who crossed over from Kansas, officials said.

But Thornburgh said the databases will be a weapon against interstate vote fraud once all states have them online, making it easier to compare voter registration lists state to state.

Both state officials said there's a conflict between fighting fraud and making it easy to register and vote.

“That's the head of the pin we dance on every day,” Thornburgh said.

A debate also rages over whether to require voters to show a government-issued ID at the polls. Opponents say that kind of scrutiny will discourage poor people and minorities from voting, but reform advocates say it would help prevent fraudulent voting.

The present election system is easy to beat, said Goodrich, the Johnson County businesswoman who wanted to vote for Bartle Hall improvements.

“You can register using your cable bill,” she said, referring to new laws that ease voter registration identification requirements.

“They try to make it way too inclusive, it's ridiculous. It's a lousy system — just full of holes.”

To reach Greg Reeves, database editor, call (816) 234-4366 or send e-mail to greeves@kcstar.com.

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First glance A sampler of vote fraud in Missouri

• Some people are voting twice, an investigation by The Kansas City Star shows.

• Election officials

believe the problem

is not widespread,

but they say the

voting system is

vulnerable to fraud.

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First glance A sampler of vote fraud in Missouri

• 1934: Four die and 11 are seriously injured in Kansas City when reformers trying to prevent double voting are attacked citywide by thugs working for the organization of political boss Tom Pendergast. It was the bloodiest Election Day in the city's history.

• 1947: Someone using nitroglycerin blows open a vault at the Jackson County Courthouse and takes ballots and voter registration cards that are evidence in a vote-fraud indictment. The bomber is never caught, and only one of 72 persons charged is convicted.

• 1981: Conservative political activist Bill Redpath is indicted for delivering fraudulent absentee ballot applications. A year later, he was convicted on one count, but an appeals court overturned the verdict.

• 2000: Election Day becomes a mess in St. Louis, with charges of fraud and manipulation, as some polls stayed open three hours past closing time to accommodate long lines.

— Greg Reeves/The Star

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© 2004 Kansas City Star and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved. http://www.kansascity.com


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To: Just mythoughts

When 15 people go through the voting booth in St. Louis and cast 34 votes, (as actually happened in the 2000 election) you know something stinks. Perhaps the Star's editorial department just woke up.


21 posted on 09/05/2004 6:49:02 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: bad company

Wonder why they didn't disclose the party affiliation of these frauds?


22 posted on 09/05/2004 6:51:48 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Just mythoughts
to even discuss vote fraud is a shocker.

You're right. We should be grateful for such blessings. ; - )

23 posted on 09/05/2004 6:52:15 AM PDT by Auntie Mame ("Whether you think you can or think you can't -- you are right." Henry Ford)
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To: Smartaleck
Wonder why they didn't disclose the party affiliation of these frauds?

Do we even have to ask?

25 posted on 09/05/2004 6:54:33 AM PDT by bad company ( (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing --Edmund Burke))
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To: bad company
One person, one vote.

Sounds nice, eh? But is it?

We are a REPRESENTATIVE Republic. Not a pure deomcracy. One person, one vote is NOT fundamental to freedom, to Liberty, to fairness, to sensititivity, nor to longevity of the system, nor to the basic requirements of the Constitution and the Constitutions -- Federal and State.

In 1921 a MAJORITY of the people, imo, would have likely brought back slavery in a worse form than original -- the majority would have totally defranchised ANY negro, slave or free.

In 1863 it's likely, imo, a MAJORITY of people were AGAINST the Civil War and would have voted to STOP it -- slavery would have continued in the CSA for many many years. Not forever, but many years longer. And in that what-if when WWII broke out, chances are both the USA and the CSA would have stood by and watched -- if not one of us supporting the Germans! Isn't one man, one vote FUN?

In 1776 the OVERWHELMING majority did NOT support the Revolution, and chances are a simple majority favored a continuance of our being a mere colony of Royal England.

Oh, yeah! Democracy is GREAT!

26 posted on 09/05/2004 7:02:05 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bad company
CLICK on IMAGE:

Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens our Democracy

By John Fund

The Florida Fiasco of 2000, with hanging chads, butterfly ballots and Supreme Court intervention, forced Americans to confront an ugly reality. The U.S. has the sloppiest election systems of any industrialized nation, so sloppy that at least eight of the 19 hijackers who attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were actually able to register to vote in either Virginia or Florida while they made their deadly preparations for 9/11.

In Stealing Elections, John Fund takes the reader on a national tour of voter fraud scandals ranging from rural states like Texas and Mississippi to big cities such as Philadelphia and Milwaukee. He explores dark episodes such as the way "vote brokers" stole a mayoral election in Miami in 1998 by tampering with 4700 absentee ballots. He shows how, in the aftermath of the Motor Voter Law of 1993, Californians used mail-in forms to get absentee ballots for fictitious people and pets, while in St. Louis it was discovered that voter rolls included 13,000 more names than the U.S. Census listed as the total number of adults in the city.

Election officials try to reassure voters by turning to computerized voting machines. But Fund shows that with the new technology come even greater concerns. Early in 2004, for instance, the state of Maryland, which has 16,000 new Diebold machines, commissioned a security expert to try to rig a practice election. He and his team broke into the computer at the State Board of Elections, completely changed the outcome of the election, left, and erased their electronic trail—all in under five minutes.

Stealing Elections gives us a chilling portrait of our electoral vulnerability—in the 2004 presidential election and on into the future. Writing with urgency and authority, John Fund shows how a lethal combination of bureaucratic bungling and ballot rigging have put our democracy at risk.

John Fund is a member of the Wall Street Journal's editorial board and writes the paper's daily Political Diary. He has written on voter fraud and election irregularities for the last decade in the Wall Street Journal, New Republic, American Spectator and other publications. In the past year, Fund has made over 90 appearances on Fox News, MSNBC, C-Span, and CNBC.

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27 posted on 09/05/2004 7:03:43 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: bad company

Where is the info on the prosecution of these crimes? As long as we don't enforce the laws, and fine them severely and make a lot of press out of it, this will continue to be a problem. Ashcroft should act and act visibily before the next election ... which means NOW!! Especially in states that have a history of this (Wisconsin, Florida, Illinois, etc.)

I don't have to guess who the party affiliation of most if not all of these double-voters probably are ...


28 posted on 09/05/2004 7:04:59 AM PDT by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

"When 15 people go through the voting booth in St. Louis and cast 34 votes, (as actually happened in the 2000 election) you know something stinks. Perhaps the Star's editorial department just woke up."


This is why I believe that "IF" only legal votes were counted in the 2000 election President Bush would have won the popular vote.


29 posted on 09/05/2004 7:05:48 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: bad company

"Do we even have to ask?"

IN NY Of the 46,000 registered in both states, 68% are Democrats, 12% are Republicans.

YES


30 posted on 09/05/2004 7:08:12 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: tioga

The law is on the books. We don't need anymore laws. What we do need is some kinda national database of voters. You register by your social security number and if you show up twice...then we give 48 hours to clear up the "misunderstanding". If you vote in two states...then you deserve any ounce of the punishment. Its real simple. And as for this absentee voting mess...if we don't start to watch over it...then double-voting will creep up into it too.

But if no one wants to do anything about this...then lets all go up to Boston in 3 years for summer vacation...and get registered. We could bring in 250,000 additional votes and really wreck the democratic voting machine there.


31 posted on 09/05/2004 7:15:09 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Or let's all take a vacation in the Western part of South Dakota and get registered there.


32 posted on 09/05/2004 7:31:34 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Let he who has ears to hear, hear. Support the heroes of the SwiftBoat Vets.)
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To: Always Right

No Party affiliations mentioned. Anybody want to speculate what they might be.

Democrats feel justified in cheating and resort to violence when they are denied.

The lawyer doesn't have a problem with it because he is a party faithful and expects them to protect him.


33 posted on 09/05/2004 7:38:33 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Kerry/Edwards. Between the two of them, I'd be safer with a slimy spitball.)
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To: TASMANIANRED
Democrats feel justified in cheating and resort to violence when they are denied.

Everything Dems complain about is stuff that they are actively engaged in and to a much larger extent than Republicans. They complain about Hollywood blacks lists and McCarthyism, but anyone who knows anything about Hollywoood knows it is the liberals who blacklist conservatives. They complain about voter fraud, but it is Democratic districts that have more votes than voters. They complain about SBVT ads, when their negative 527's have spent almost 100 times more on attack ads.

34 posted on 09/05/2004 7:46:38 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: bad company

That's how Republican Kansas got shafted with a left-wing Democrap Governor. And don't expect her to stop this practice.


35 posted on 09/05/2004 8:00:29 AM PDT by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: bad company

Here in Texas it is common for some people to re-register every time they move as well as register at homes of relatives or friends. On election day they collect a tidy sum for voting in multiple precincts. Its an easy scam.


36 posted on 09/05/2004 8:24:39 AM PDT by darth
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To: bad company

I realize this is off a bit on a tangent but in comparing populations of the largest and smallest states in US Senate races 1 Wyoming voter is equal to about 60 to 70 California voters.


37 posted on 09/05/2004 8:33:02 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Just mythoughts
I do, too.
Back out all the dead people and their dogs who voted in St. Louis and Chicago, then add in the absentee military votes blocked by Algore and Co and the 500,000 popular vote issue would evaporate like Kerry's Purple Heart credibility.
38 posted on 09/05/2004 8:37:36 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: bad company
• 2000: Election Day becomes a mess in St. Louis, with charges of fraud and manipulation, as some polls stayed open three hours past closing time to accommodate long lines.

In Texas everyone in line at closing time is allowed to vote. From what I recall of 2000, the three extra hours was not to accommodate "long lines" of people who showed up to vote on time, but rather to allow people to show up and vote after the polls were to have closed.

39 posted on 09/05/2004 8:53:27 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: eccentric

Two more years.


40 posted on 09/05/2004 10:21:44 AM PDT by bad company ( (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing --Edmund Burke))
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