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Boy who begged for water was bayoneted
The Sunday Times (UK) ^ | 9/5/04 | Peter Conradi

Posted on 09/04/2004 7:20:50 PM PDT by saquin

AFTER more than 24 hours in the sweltering heat of the school gymnasium in Beslan, one of the boys trapped inside could not take it any longer, writes Peter Conradi.

Summoning up his courage, he approached a hostage taker with a bayonet fixed to his assault rifle and asked him for a drink. It was probably the worst error that he could have made.

“Instead of giving him water, he drove his bayonet through the boy’s body,” said Stanislav Tsarakhov, 10, another captive standing nearby. “I don’t know if he died.”

Details of the incident emerged as children who escaped the siege described how their captors had deliberately deprived them of food and water, repeatedly firing guns into the ceiling to try to silence them. “The hostage takers would hold their machineguns to your temple and said that if there was a lot of noise, they would shoot everyone,” said a girl, who gave her name only as Zalina.

Diana Gadzhinova, 14, who also survived the siege, said that one of the greatest hardships had been the lack of food and drink.

“When we were let out to go to the lavatory, some children would run into a room where there were plants in pots and they would eat them,” she said.

“Others would hide the plants in their underwear and share them with their friends. But the hunger was not as bad as the thirst. Some children couldn’t take it and would urinate into their hand and drink.”

At another point, Gadzhinova said, they were all ordered to lie down. There were so many people packed into the gym that they had to lie on top of each other. “The gunmen warned that if there was an arm or a leg in their way, they would shoot at it without warning,” she said.

For Arsen Khasigov, 11, trapped with his mother, the worst thing was the sleep deprivation. “They kept us awake all the time,” he said. “They would pour our urine on our heads.”

Also horrific was the role played by two “black widows” — Chechen women who turned to terrorism to avenge husbands and brothers killed during the Kremlin’s military clampdown on the breakaway republic.

According to accounts from some captives, the women blew themselves up in the first hours of the siege, killing several men near them. Last night no trace of their bodies had been found.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: beslan; cair; cairsilentonchechnya; chechnya; filthybeasts; jihad; jihadinrussia; muslims; nukemecca; ossetia; religionofpeace; religionofpieces; russia; silenceissupport; silenceofcair; trop; whereiscair
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To: Destro
I am glad at least that the world is now getting a clue about the chechens. Not you, of course.

I always said the chechens were the most stupid people on earth. They kidnapped aid workers and journalists who came to their country sympathetic to their cause, beheaded them and put their heads on posts. You just had to conclude, as I did long ago, that these are simply demons in disguise. They know only how to perform evil, bring suffering to anyone in their immediate vicinity, and *especially*, make movies of gore and killing.

I have personally watched about 20-30 hours of video on Kavkaz. :-)

101 posted on 09/04/2004 8:12:36 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Destro

Let's not forget that it was just a week ago that terrorists brought down two Russian airplanes, killing all on board both. Now this a week later. It's taken a lot in the past to wake the Russian bear, but once awake the response will be gargantuan.


102 posted on 09/04/2004 8:12:58 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: kittymyrib
John Kerry thinks the threat of terror is "over rated".

Yet people still want to vote for him. It's very sad to see, this stupidity and selfishness. The down side of prosperity.

103 posted on 09/04/2004 8:13:15 PM PDT by lizma
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To: afnamvet
"Its a sad ending which I don't even think the rebels wanted. Putin has once again shown that he has no respect for human life, be it innocent children or whatever. I see no reason as to why the building was stormed. The only thing that comes to my mind is to show the ruthlessness or their military might. Innocent lives could have been saved by negotiations. Innocent children and civilians are paying the price whether it be in Afghanistan, Palestine, Chechnya or Iraq. Why? What do we want to prove? This act of desperation on part of the rebels, whoever they are, is condemnable but the blame equally lies on the Russian authorities. Imran, Bangalore, India"

From the BBC. This will be the mainstrean attitude in europe in a weeks time. *SIGH*

104 posted on 09/04/2004 8:14:20 PM PDT by Colosis (Formatting Universe, 0.0000000000000004% complete.)
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
Homeschool usually best IMO but not best for him right now. He's in a private Christian school. One of the two people that terrorists hate most. I haven't seen any policies about guns. I'm not sure if they fall under the law for public or not. Maybe I should check on this too but I want to know the difficulty someone intending harm would encounter.
105 posted on 09/04/2004 8:15:21 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: saquin; All

What I don't get is why women were involved do they realize that Islam is surpress of women rights

HELLO


106 posted on 09/04/2004 8:15:51 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: afnamvet

Our duty to our country like that to our families only ends when we pass it on to the next in line and we have fallen.


107 posted on 09/04/2004 8:16:55 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: Righter-than-Rush; RussianConservative
With the world seeing what radical Islamics do, do you see condemnation on Putin for nuking them?

Well Putin has taken, as you probably know, especially pre-911 here, a LOT of criticism for the war in chechnya. See his quote on my FR site for a response he once made to the press.

And as I have been posting, if you did not travel to Russia a lot in the past, you simply did not hear the news about what was going on in the 90's.

But it is my hope that he can somehow allow for evacuation of any leftover innocents, and then make a new parking lot for southern Russia. I have long posted about the need for this parking lot, personally. :-)

It will take 40 days of mourning time before we see any response if there is one. In the Orthodox church we have that strict 40 day time period. Let us hope that after it, serious action is taken to remove ikcheria from the face of the earth. I simply cannot see it as anything but a gateway to hades here on our planet. There is nothing good to come from it anymore. It's just a shame that Ugudov and Basayev are probably in some arab country and will miss being killed. For these two men there is no fire hot enough.

108 posted on 09/04/2004 8:18:10 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: sneaker
Actually, since you asked (about UN response to this carnage) here is what they actually said: UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "horrified" by the violence.

Whose violence?, Annan doesn't say. They are SO relevant and important in these times of crises...

109 posted on 09/04/2004 8:18:19 PM PDT by kcar (www.TheUNsucks.com)
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To: Colosis

I believe that Putin and his military are planning to deliver a response that will sinificantly reduce the Chechen "problem". We can only hope he is successful.


110 posted on 09/04/2004 8:19:16 PM PDT by afnamvet (USAF Tuy Hoa AFB RVN 68-69 NOT FONDA KERRY!)
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To: Colosis

The BBC always, without exception in my experience, shows itself as anti-Russian and pro-chechen.


111 posted on 09/04/2004 8:19:53 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: boxerblues

[It might help if the media would quite calling them Chechen rebels.]
................

Incl. our own dear Fox News, last I heard. WHO do you suppose is responsible for this? Why??


112 posted on 09/04/2004 8:20:56 PM PDT by GaretGarrett
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To: Awestruck
look at all the liberals who lost loved ones on 911 and still blame the US for it!

Not just the US, some of them blame Bush specifically. I saw a woman who lost her husband (I think) in the attack on the WTC towers doing just that. I sympathize with her loss and respect her sorrow. But with all due respect, any American who actually blames Bush for 9/11 is either a clueless Michael Moore disciple or a hopelessly naive victim of slanderous Democrat propaganda. Or both.

If any one American leader bears all the blame, and I don't think that's the case, it would have to be the former president who watched the gathering terrorist storm for 8 years and did nothing to effectively counter it. Unless you consider bombing an aspirin factory doing something effective.

Accepting Sudan's offer to turn over OBL to the US might have been somewhat more effective than pulverizing aspirin tablets, but he turned down that gift.

113 posted on 09/04/2004 8:21:56 PM PDT by epow
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To: afnamvet
Locked & loaded......waiting

DITTO Brother. Welcome home and thank you for your service.

114 posted on 09/04/2004 8:22:16 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: MarMema; nw_arizona_granny

>>>To my great surprise, a prominent story on WND about a year later was about she and her father trying to come here to travel and tell their story. They were denied entry to the US. No reason given.

That is interesting. Especially after a friend sent me this article today.

http://www.diacritica.com/communique/content/010804/a.html

The Chechen Connection
Not a Passport, Not a Name

Old spooks don't retire - they just change sides. But
even the proverbial broken clock tells the right time
twice a day, and this is the case with a sensational
article authored by Aleksandr Litvinenko on the
vaunted "Chechen Connection."

Litvinenko is a former Russian secret police officer
who sought (and obtained) political asylum in the
United Kingdom. He's long believed that the
notorious apartment bombings in Moscow and other cities which marked an escalation in the Chechen War were the work of his former comrades, and even sought to contact one of the (great many) Chechens that the Russian security services fingered as the mastermind of the bombings.

(snip) See link for rest.


115 posted on 09/04/2004 8:22:31 PM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: BIGLOOK

Very true and well said my friend.


116 posted on 09/04/2004 8:23:00 PM PDT by afnamvet (USAF Tuy Hoa AFB RVN 68-69 NOT FONDA KERRY!)
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To: SouthernFreebird
Yep. And any day now, they (and the UN, I'm sure) will be condemning this for the evil it is. CAIR should be confronted -- again.

Stunned aftermath of siege bloodbath

117 posted on 09/04/2004 8:24:27 PM PDT by cyn (prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: Viking2002
Frigging Muslim savages

They are Muslims? Really? The NY Times and this article do not mention that even once. They are "separatists"...you know, like America's Minutemen in 1776.

118 posted on 09/04/2004 8:25:20 PM PDT by montag813 (ue)
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To: traumer; Viking2002

119 posted on 09/04/2004 8:26:13 PM PDT by Missouri (Deport Te-rah-sa)
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To: nicmarlo

"absolutely horrific what they did to these innocent babies"

Yea, just wait til John Kerry calls the UN on those Ba$tards!


120 posted on 09/04/2004 8:26:28 PM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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