Posted on 09/04/2004 3:25:40 PM PDT by outlawcam
So, Mr. Expert, which seat are you running for, exactly?
Well, if memory serves, he won two primaries.
And the presidential sweepstakes is hardly a fair barometer of that, since Dole and Bush were the preordained winners in '96 and '00. The Republican establishment had picked their guy well in advance of the primaries.
But the fact remains that Alan Keyes has millions of Republicans who love and respect him, and consider him to be a prime representative of their views.
I can't afford the pay cut.
Yeah...
I'll agree with that, though I'd disagree with "millions."
I'm done.
This issue is a tempest in a teapot simply because government has given favorable tax & insurance benefits to 'traditional' married couples.
The solution is equally simple. End the favoritism.
Find other ways to promote family values.
(No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
-tpaine-
Gay people do have the right to get married.
Big of you to admit it.
Do you have the power to dictate the rules of peoples civil marriage contracts? -- More appropriately, do you see this power enumerated in our Constitution?
They have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex.
Sorry kid. But even sexual deviates have rights to life, liberty, and property. -- Unless they violate the rule of law.
be sure that my name is on that list.
I'm thankful that most of the Keyes haters don't live in Illinois and can't vote for the socialist baby killer Obama.
I live in Illinois and I vote.
>>Jesus reprimanded the "experts on the Law" for their self-righteous, judgmental application of the law which was completely lacking in compassion and mercy.>>
Actually, no. He condemned them as hypocrites for following the letter of the law without knowing the heart of the law. He did not condemn them for a lack of compassion.
I'm glad you're there, my friend.
If you, and everyone like you, will drag everyone they know to the polls, the outcome will shake the world.
Untrue. For one thing YOU'RE not a Keyes cultist. For another, people in the media read these threads all the time. You are not only giving them ideas with which to hurt Allen's candidacy, you're proving to them that Allen's support is divided, fodder which further hurts his candidacy.
BTW, I like Allen Keyes, but would hardly consider myself a cultist. There are far too many other conservatives I like at least as much.
Now, if you want to accuse me of being a Reagan cultist, you would ALMOST be correct.
If I can think of it, they can think of it.
You give me far too much credit.
Mobilemitter;Well, no, not really. Ya see, Jesus understood the meaning behind the text, the true "spirit" of the law. Keyes did not miss it. The grace of marriage extends to the two (that being the man and the woman) who will become one.
What are you talking about?
Nowhere in the Bible did Jesus debate the "experts on the law" about whether the meaning of marriage included homosexuality.
That was completely out of the question.
What Jesus debated the experts on the law, the Scribes and Pharisees on, was NOT their allowing unlawful marriages or sexual conduct, but rather their hypocritical sefl-righteous application of the law.
In the past several years the only republicans who have gotten anywhere have parroted the democrats. Anti death penality, anti guns,anti life, tax and spend and still call themselves republicans.
I feel that we are fortunate to finally have a candidate who is a god loving constitution loving conservative, a man I can vote for and vote for him I will.
It seems that to too many people this is a horse race and they don't want to vote for someone who is going to lose anyway. I'll vote for Alan Keyes and if he loses I will have done the right thing.
I also wonder if there may be some underlying racism involved too, after all Alan Keyes is very black and very smart to be so very black.
I wouldn't care if the man were shades of green. He's from Maryland? Who cares!
Nowhere did I "assume" anything about Keye's belief about marriage.
I was simply responding to his argument as it was stated. And it was flawed. Procreation is not the ONLY reason homosexuality is wrong.
It isn't BIG of me, it's a fact.
bflr for great talking points.
And of course, you misrepresent Mr. Keyes.
No way on God's green earth that he believes that that is the ONLY reason homosexuality is wrong.
Quit building your arguments on shifting sand.
No, to quote Dr. Keyes: "The point of the matter is that marriage as an institution involves procreation. It is impossible for homosexuals to procreate. Therefore they cannot marry."
Why is this not clear? He does not state that a marriage must have children to be a marriage.
Yes he does. Read his statment again;
"The point of the matter is that marriage as an institution involves procreation."
He says procreation is the "POINT" of marriage.
There is much more to marriage than procreation.
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