[Polybius]

FYI

[bootyist-monk]

Yes, I want my commander-in-chief to be a guy that drags the muzzle of his weapon through the dirt. And his campaign is so proud of this image of imcompetence that they use it to show his "war hero" credentials.

[scott7278]

Bump and Ping!

[AmericanCheeseFood]

Ping list me and just take this to heart.

He's going to lose, he's a habitual liar and the more he and his handy crew of bullcrap stars stay in the open, the worse it's going to get for them.

Cheese.

[AndyJackson]

In a reserve status, Kerry would still have been a U.S. Naval officer subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Man we have been over and over this on another thread. When you are in an inactive status not under training order you are not subject to the UCMJ for your acts committed while in an inactive status.

[Yardstick]

*Bump and bookmark*

[stockpirate]

Gee, you left out that in November 1971 John Kerry attended a meeting of the VVAW in Kansas City and listened to a plan that involved assassinating seven US senators. The group liked the plan and it was tabled until the next meeting in Feb 1972? where it was to be voted on.

Mr. Kerry did not resign from the VVAW at that meeting, but only resigned from the Executive committee, per FBI documents. AS this article indicates MR. Kerry stayed a leader for quite some time afterwards. Kerry still with VVAW

As a matter of fact, while Mr. Kerry was with the VVAW there was several plans according to the FBI documents. Here are but a few.

1. Plan to decapitate the leaders of the US Government.

2. Plan to assassinate President Nixon.

3. Plan to kidnap leaders of the US and hold them hostage to force the US to pull our troops out of Vietnam. (Sound familiar)

[Tacis]

Kerry was court martialed during the early 70s for something like "dereliction of duty in the face of the enemy" (a reduced charge from "treason") and dishonorably discharged from the Navy. Several years later, when there was a dem president (check some of the lefties Carter pardoned) his "dishonorable" discharge was revoked and he was honorably discharged. His 1978 DD 214 it hidden and his last "public" DD 214 is dated 3/1/70, before his treason.

Unfortunately, Kaerry simply can not afford to let this record be seen. He must hide these documents because the remove any doubt at all about his fitness to serve. An objective observer WILL NEVER be allowed to see these records and report on them.

But, consider. It must be a terrible secret to decide that it is better to be called a cowardly traitor, thrown out of the Navy for dereliction of duty or some serious military violation than to reveal the truth.

[AndyJackson]

That is how John Kerry’s official web site is currently dealing with the news media in regards to the delicate subject of when John Kerry was “discharged” from the U.S. Navy.... Why does this matter?...Because John Kerry does not want the news media reporter or the civilian voter unfamiliar with military jargon to know that he was still a U.S. Naval officer at the time he was the leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

Your whole thesis is wrong. There is nothing especially jumbled about the documents on his website and they appear to be in order. At the time he was the leader of Vietnam Veterans against the War he was in an inactive status. Inactive duty reserve personnel are not subject to the UCMJ for their civilian acts, nor do they give up right of free speach, right of dissent, etc.

Please give it up. This entire line of reasoning is WRONG and DANGEROUS, and you will be challendged and contradicted by every officer who has left service and retired.

I suspect you never served on active duty as an officer or you would not even begin to make the claims that you are making.

There is plenty to get Kerry on without having to invent stuff.

[68 grunt]

In April of '71, at Dewey Cyn III, he had a gaggle of 'handlers', all brimming with communist propoganda. These were devoted commies, not veterans. We know xlinton went behind the iron curtain, where, assuredly, he was fully indoctonated. It had to be between March '70 and the beginning of '71 when skerry received his. Any record of his activities during this period?

[Eastbound]

Excellent research. One should never 'baffle' while standing in front of a fan.

[Taxbilly]

Something that Kerry forgot to read before he signed it.

[EdReform]

BTTT

[dixiechick2000]

Very nice piece of research on your part.
Thank you for sharing it, and thank you
for the ping.

Definately deserving of a BTTT and a
*bookmark*. ;o)

[RaceBannon]

I have a wild guess

Kerry first enlisted in 1966, right?

He is obligated for 6 years service, right? That ends in 1972.

YET, his discharge is 1978.

I am willing to bet, he was given a GENERAL UNDER OTHER THAN HONORABLE for his actions in protesting the war.

He had to wait the 5 years for the attempt to upgrade his record. If you get a General discharge, you have to wait a few years to get it upgraded to HONORABLE, I dont remember how long, but I remember you could upgrade it.

I am willing to bet Kerry did NOT get an Honorable Discharge the first time because of his anti-War record, and Kerry then resubmitted his request years later to complete the waiting period for resubmitting to upgrade the discharge.

Any agreements on the likelihood of this?

[bear11]

Why isn't anyone asking who was behind the grooming of Kerry as a young man? Are they the same individuals who could have covered up and forged documents on his behalf.

Sorry, but after seeing Kerry on the campaign trail, he isn't smart enough to have come this far on his own. Few are.

Obviously Teddy Kennedy and the Kennedy handlers are involved.

Is there any info. that connects the dots to the communists that shows he is a mole?

[Yaelle]

Excellent. But missing on your corrected timeline is that he was still a member of the Armed Forces when he went to confer with the enemy in Paris.

[sweetiepiezer]

On his military timeline on his website, it only lists 2 purple hearts.
Whats up with that now?

[highlander_UW]

Well, don't forget that as a member of the US Navy his negotiations with the North Vietnamese in Paris was an act of treason...so of course he'd like to gloss over that fact.

[christie]

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