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To: Nascardude

Again, with all due respect, this poll is garbage. Republicans have been ridiculously oversampled. Let us wait for polls from organizations with more credibility than Newsweak.


2 posted on 09/04/2004 10:45:40 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep

I'm with you, nwrep ...


7 posted on 09/04/2004 10:49:15 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Michael Steele ... WOW!)
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To: nwrep

i'm with you. when the LA Times which over samples the RATS has numbers like these then I'll think a reagan vote is on teh train tracks and that mr carter and mr mondale will be happy cause they will not have worst record.


8 posted on 09/04/2004 10:49:18 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: nwrep

I'm not arguing here but what is you theory as to why Newsweek would do this. It is a liberal rag or at least it was, when I canceled my subscription years ago.


11 posted on 09/04/2004 10:49:35 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: nwrep

maybe too many people are afraid to identify themselves as democrats now??


18 posted on 09/04/2004 10:56:06 AM PDT by flashbunny (Hey - click on my name to see an anti-kerry bumper sticker! Do it! Now!!!)
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To: nwrep
CT... NJ... MA?!

Somebody's talkin' shit here. These two states are the core of northeast socialism

The majority of voters in these two states believe that higher taxes are the cure-all from hang-nails to world peace!

19 posted on 09/04/2004 10:57:24 AM PDT by johnny7 (“We are winning!” -Col. David Shoup USMC. 2nd Day, Tarawa, 1943)
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To: nwrep

I agree, however, look at the independents in the poll. Bush leads them by 5% now. He's never done that before.


21 posted on 09/04/2004 10:58:20 AM PDT by Nataku X (John sez: NO BLOOD FOR PURPLE HEARTS!)
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To: nwrep
Republicans have been ridiculously oversampled
374 Republicans (plus or minus 6)
303 Democrats (plus or minus 6)
300 Independents (plus or minus 6)


I don't think so.
23 posted on 09/04/2004 11:00:20 AM PDT by stockpirate ("Kerry, backed by, supported by, lead by, funded by, admired by, COMMUNISTS!" It's about VVAW)
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To: nwrep

Kerry has a reputation for fighting back; he's had come-from-behind victories before after being written off as defeated. Albeit, this was in Massachusetts. But I expect Kerry to unleash a withering negative campaign against Bush: highlighting claimed Bush flip-flops, Bush failure to keep promises, alleged Bush lies. You can do a lot with $100 million.


24 posted on 09/04/2004 11:00:50 AM PDT by megatherium
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To: nwrep

You mean they finally ask Republicansfor a change.


27 posted on 09/04/2004 11:02:20 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 My vote goes for President Bush because he is a great leader and a good man.)
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To: nwrep

You may be right. But how do you know that we may be seeing another significance in this poll: that more respondents are identifying themselves as GOP. Could that be the case?


33 posted on 09/04/2004 11:07:07 AM PDT by Timeout (My name is Timeout....and I'm a blogaholic)
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To: nwrep
"Again, with all due respect, this poll is garbage. Republicans have been ridiculously oversampled. Let us wait for polls from organizations with more credibility than Newsweak."

No, they adjust it to a given assumption of Democrats and Republicans (i.e. that 35% of voters are R, 38% are D, and the rest are independent.) Then, they extrapolate the numbers (94% of Republicans support Bush, vs. 4% Kerry), (82% of Democrats support Kerry, vs. 14% for Bush) and apply that percentage to their "assumption" percentages. It actually would have been much better for Bush if they used the actual results without adjusting for their assumption percentage.
40 posted on 09/04/2004 11:10:40 AM PDT by hawaiian
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To: nwrep

>>Republicans have been ridiculously oversampled.

You might be right but if the Democrats are as demoralized on election day as they are today, these proportions might be pretty predictive. If Bush is clearly ahead on election day, I expect a very low Democrat turnout. Low enough in fact to seriously threaten a couple of otherwise safe Democrat Senate seats (such as Murray in Washington and Reid in Nevada).


50 posted on 09/04/2004 11:13:45 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: nwrep
Again, with all due respect, this poll is garbage.

True, but Bush may be doing very very well in California at this point. Do I want him to spend any money there? No. But he's probably tied there currently, though Kerry will pull back into the lead as the bounce subsides a bit.

51 posted on 09/04/2004 11:15:49 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (All that Botox has messed up his mind)
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To: nwrep
C'mon. The numbers are probably even worse for Kerry. Let's face it, the pollsters must come clean. They tried to pull one over on us all summer, cooking the numbers to make the race seem close, hoping that Bush wouldn't get much of a convention bounce.

But now that Bush has gotten a sizeable convention bounce, the pollsters are no longer able to maintain the "horse race" lie. They must now save face by making the "Bush Bounce" seem even bigger than it really is so that they can release the real numbers under some sort of cover (must have been that HUGE convention bounce).

IMHO, Bush was up 5-7 point all along. He got maybe a five point bounce out of this convention. But it's going to seem much bigger than that on account of the fact that we are seeing real numbers for a change.

Kerry is going to be a big loser this November. He's got nothing. He's an awful, awful candidate. Not even likeable in his own party. And his running mate is such a lightweight that he makes Dan Quayle seem like Dick Cheney by comparison.

Kerry came out of his convention with a negative bounce. The pollsters cooked the numbers to make it seem like he at least held his ground, hoping that Bush's convention would be a dud as well. But the gamble didn't pay off. Americans have been breaking for a Bush in a major ways since the Democratic convention in July. The Lamestream Media has been holding back the surge ever since to the best of their ability. But the dam has burst. They can no longer contain the surge that Bush has been getting SINCE LATE JULY.

The floodgates have been opened. A Bush double-digit lead is the least of the Democratic Party's problems right now. Not only are they saddled with the worst presidential candidate since George McGovern, but their very future is at stake. They are now seen as the party of Michael Moore and other anti-American fruitcakes. Normal Americans who would be disposed to vote Democratic can no longer associate themselves with that kind of scum. What we are seeing here isn't "Bush Democrats" but Democrats fleeing the party.

The Democratic Party has been taken over by Marxists and commies and other anti-American types. Even lunch-pail union workers who have voted Democrat all their lives do not want to be in the same camp as Michael Moore, who in his disgusting film, portrayed Saddam Hussein's Iraq as an "oasis of paradise" in a manner very similar to the Nazi propaganda films of the 1930s in which Adolph Hitler was shown handing out flowers to little girls.

If the Democratic Party does not act to root this kind of scum out of their party, then this is going to be a "turn out the lights" election for them.

During the past week, the American people have seen that all the decent politicians are in the Republican camp. Rudolph Guiliani, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Zell Miller (a Democrat!), Mitt Romney, etc., etc. Even John McCain, a liberal darling, spoke for the Republicans and expressed his disgust with that "disingenous filmaker" who has now come to symbolize all that is wrong and wretched with the Democratic Party.

Now when the average American thinks of the Republican Party, they think of Guiliani, Zell Miller and Schwarzenegger. When they think of the Democratic Party, they now think of Michael Moore, Hillary Clinton and the pathetic John Kerry.

If we don't have a GOP landslide of epic proportions this November, I will be shocked.

69 posted on 09/04/2004 11:47:12 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Bush 53%)
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To: nwrep

Is it possible that more people responding to the poll said they were Republican because they were more likely to vote for Bush? In other words, as Bush's actual numbers go up, wouldn't you expect more people to say that they are Republican when being polled?


83 posted on 09/04/2004 12:37:45 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: nwrep
If you used more realistic figures, like D-38%/R-35%/I-27% (which was about the ratio voting in the '00 election), and use the same percentages, the vote tally would be:

Bush/Cheney - 50%

Skerry/BreckGirlSilkPony - 43%

Still a nice bump, but not the amount being reported by Newsweek.

89 posted on 09/04/2004 7:09:54 PM PDT by NYC Republican (Don't call it the MSM- there's NOTHING mainstream about it, call it the LIBERAL media)
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