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FOX NEWS STUNS NETS
New York Post ^ | 9/04/04 | DON KAPLAN

Posted on 09/04/2004 12:04:54 AM PDT by kattracks

September 4, 2004 -- NETWORK news divisions are nursing bruises in the wake of the Republican National Convention, in which viewers found cable news more popular. It was a seismic shift in the history of convention coverage, and it sent a clear message to network news officials that in 2008, things will have to be different.

"There's no question that we stood back and said to each other, 'Whoa, what happened there,' " a network news source said yesterday.

"I'm not sure what lesson we've learned from this convention," says ABC News senior vice president Paul Slavin. "But there are a whole host of new technologies coming online now that we will all utilize four years from now in ways that none of us may even suspect right now."

Slavin thinks that next time, the big nets are likely to offer viewers convention coverage "significantly enhanced over what they received this year" specifically tailored to different viewers tastes.


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To: Carling
There are a couple of reason why cable news in general, and FNC, in particular, beat the networks. First, they covered more of the convention. If you tuned in at 9pm and wanted to watch the coverage, you had to watch a cable channel. Why switch to a network station when they begin their coverage later?

Secondly, If I'm not watching C-Span, I'm watching FNC. I do not want to provide any support in any way to the other cable news operations. I know other conservatives who feel the same way.

101 posted on 09/04/2004 6:26:35 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Charter member Broken Glass Republicans (2000))
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To: Carling
FoxNews wins because they at least make us feel equal to the elitist media.

Its a diverse nation, and the Big Three Networks can't create a "Consrevative Free reality" when close to half the country is questioning their motives. Everyone can't be a journalist or work for the government.

102 posted on 09/04/2004 6:34:39 AM PDT by alrea (Help Wanted: State of New Jersey Director of Homeland Security. Must be experienced and HOT.)
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To: kattracks
The Big Three, the mainstream media, celebrity journalists, and Peter, Dan, and Tom. It's not that they "don't get it", it's that they won't.

The cocksure mainstream media elite continue to deny a systemic bias in their coverage, even though the ever-expanding internet, talk radio, conservative print media, and FOXNews, expose them on a daily basis. CNN, MSNBC, they've adopted window-dressing changes, prettier anchors, silly chatter, eye-catching graphics, but they won't change what really matters; bias in reporting.

For the past year or longer, the political left and the media elite have combined with the celebrity laden far left fringe, to belittle, malign, and attack FOXNews. Snide comments, insulting jokes, magazine articles, have escalated into books, serious news articles, a movie, and even full frontal assault by politicians, tv anchors, comedians. They are each others' darlings.

Media honchos should have known that even people without cable or satellite access would get curious as to what the fuss was all about, tune in to FOXNews to check it out.

Media honchos should have sensed that a growing conservative movement out here would spark the quest for alternative reporting.

Milestones the media ignored:
When Bill Clinton started attacking Rush Limbaugh, (Clinton blamed Rush for firing up the likes of Tim McVeigh, and he did it from Air Force One.)

When Hillary leveled her VRWC allegation against conservatives.

When intentional misreporting by the New York Times received nation-wide attention and scorn.

Personal moments of revelation for me:
When the media refused to investigate Bill Clinton in 1991, when they joined forces with the Clintons to attack his accusors.

When Walter Cronkite finally outted himself as a flaming liberal. All those years of blind trust, thinking Cronkite was honestly reporting the news..I felt such a fool.

When I started noticing the subtle use of left-leaning propaganda on tv sit-coms and dramas.

What I see happening now is 1992 all over again. The mainstream media attacked Bill Clinton's critics then. They attack Kerry's critics now. But it's not working for them. Why?

Because the truth is "out there", and we know where to find it.

103 posted on 09/04/2004 6:41:03 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@That's My Story, And I'm Sticking To It.com)
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To: kattracks
I can't think of anything better for those screaming FOX hating protesters,(they were chanting "Shut the Fox up!")... than to have them wake up after the RNC and hear that FOX News has set NEW RECORDS for viewership.

This is poetic justice!
104 posted on 09/04/2004 7:06:39 AM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jeff Chandler

Whoa dude, I like your way with words.


105 posted on 09/04/2004 7:08:29 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (What a bunch of effin girlie-men.)
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To: kattracks
"There's no question that we stood back and said to each other, 'Whoa, what happened there,' " a network news source said yesterday.

"I'm not sure what lesson we've learned from this convention," says ABC News senior vice president Paul Slavin.

This is good for our side lets hope they still don't get it by 2008........maybe they'll just turn up the volume and scream at us even more than before.

106 posted on 09/04/2004 7:14:17 AM PDT by thingumbob
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To: kattracks
They just don't get it, do they?
Oh, I think they get it alright, they just won't admit it.

"There are none so blind, as those who would not see." Willful ignorance is just that.

107 posted on 09/04/2004 7:15:50 AM PDT by lemura
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To: Jeff Chandler
Darn...........

They

misunderestimated

us again!
108 posted on 09/04/2004 7:16:51 AM PDT by thingumbob
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To: Wolverine
Not a bad idea.

I also want to see J School profs examined for in-class bias, for teaching students to be *change agents* and for accepting subjective, situational-ethics-derived assignments.

All J School assignments should be rigorously critiqued in class by the entire class and students should be mercilessly excoriated for any bias that appears in their work. A couple of years of this and they may develop a knee-jerk allergy to bias, just like the majority of their audience.

Bring bias into consideration within the grading system and make any grade of C cause for expulsion from J School. The flunkouts can go into creative writing or polisci.
109 posted on 09/04/2004 8:32:40 AM PDT by reformedliberal ("John, YOU were the wrong one, here". Bob Dole)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Why not just be objective for a change? No amount of money invested in "whizz-bang-ohmigod-wow!" technology will ever be a suitable substitute to unbiased reporting.

Yep. But because they insist on keeping their heads up their @sses they'll keep trying.

110 posted on 09/04/2004 8:36:23 AM PDT by In_25_words_or_less (It's more a guideline than a rule.)
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To: Carling

Old media = Chevrolet and GM. New media = Toyota. The buyers are choosing and there are no GM cars in the top ten. Sad that in 1960 fifty percent of cars built by one company that lost sight of taking car of the customer.


111 posted on 09/04/2004 8:46:21 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Mo1
Chris Mathews AND John McCain went on Jon Stewart's show to bash Miller even more. Listen, Mathews is even using selected clips of Miller in his promos. He's out for ratings....not working...hee hee...but he'll keep up the effort. He's becoming a cartoonish parody of himself.

Evidently it's part of Rick Kaplan's strategy to get MSNBC out of the ratings cellar. Go after Malkin, Miller with rabid intensity, I think it's part of the strategy to give HARDBALL "buzz". I think the plan is to encourage Darryl Hannah do even more Chris Matthews impersonations on Saturday Night LIve. Their fall season of new shows will start soon, just in time to add to Matthews swelled ego.

HARDBALL out on the street was part of the plan too. Handing out those red, foam "hardball" sticks, encouraging a Jerry Springer like audience to mix it up, misbehave. I think MSNBC, in particular HARDBALL has been on a shameful self-promotional binge. I think they've become the laughingstock of serious political debate, and I'm very glad it did them no good at all.

112 posted on 09/04/2004 8:53:37 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Chris Matthews = Buffoon.com)
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To: kattracks

The lamestream media Networks are going to lose viewers until they replace the old guard talking heads with fresh, younger and more truely middle Americans. Why do these networks hang on to these ultra-leftwing boneheads for 25-35 years? When they finally move some of them off of prime-time, they simply rehash the same chit under a different name program. Retire them all to Cuba!


113 posted on 09/04/2004 8:54:50 AM PDT by moonman
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To: kattracks
'Whoa, what happened there,' " a network news source said yesterday.

Oh!  Oh!  Pick me!  Pick me!  I know!!!!

114 posted on 09/04/2004 8:56:11 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: YaYa123
Evidently it's part of Rick Kaplan's strategy to get MSNBC out of the ratings cellar. Go after Malkin, Miller with rabid intensity, I think it's part of the strategy to give HARDBALL "buzz". I think the plan is to encourage Darryl Hannah do even more Chris Matthews impersonations on Saturday Night LIve. Their fall season of new shows will start soon, just in time to add to Matthews swelled ego.

Betcha you're right

Thing is, it can backfire on them .. I use to just boycott Noballs Matthews .. after these stunts, I've boycotted ALL of MSNBC

And McCain ?? .. he can go pound sand

115 posted on 09/04/2004 9:57:42 AM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: the_Watchman

I heard that FNC had over 5 million compared to CNN at 1.5 million viewers during coverage of the RNC. About the same for MSNBC.


116 posted on 09/04/2004 10:01:51 AM PDT by American Sovereignty Defender (I'm voting FOR Bush - before voting AGAINST Kerry)
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To: Carling
And we republicans have much much much more CLASS!!! Didn't you notice the CLASS in the RNC Convention over the DNC Convention. The RATS are becoming more and more pathetic since you've allowed the low life clintoons' to head up your party...and then there's scumbag McAwful...now he is really a low lifer. Just look at him.....low class is all I see in this man.
117 posted on 09/04/2004 10:04:31 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: All
Did everyone see when Dan Rather interviewed former President Bush?
Or when GHW Bush stopped by the NBC broadcasting booth to describe to America how it feels, as an ex-president himself, to watch his son accept his party's nomination?

No? Oops. That's because they didn't. Their bias has destroyed their ability make intelligent decisions.

Savvy viewers recgonize it as bias. The average viewer sees it as crappy coverage.

118 posted on 09/04/2004 10:13:11 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: kattracks

One way could have been to show the introduction for President Bush rather than having Dan Rather's commentary.

They could try actually showing the convention.


119 posted on 09/04/2004 10:17:54 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: kattracks
But there are a whole host of new technologies coming online now that we will all utilize four years from now...

The nets just don't get it. Technology is not the issue. Fairness of coverage is. We're simply sick and tired of heavily biased reporting being broadcast from the elitists in the liberal media. The jigs up for them.

120 posted on 09/04/2004 10:19:09 AM PDT by Starboard
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